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post #1 of 41 Old 27th March 2017, 09:25 PM Thread Starter
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Catastrophic Engine Failure???

Well last week I'm driving to the gym (2002 E39 M5 with 84,000 miles)and suddenly I get the message "STOP OIL PRESSURE". I immediately get off the road and turn off the car and have it towed to my mechanic. Oil level was okay when I stopped. There was some whitish stuff on the top and bottom of dipstick. The car has been getting louder than it's normal Vanos knock lately but running like a scalded ape!! Mechanic just informs me that there is metal(aluminum) and bearing material in the oil. He said the car probably lost oil pressure and suffered a catastrophic failure. Of course that made my ******* day!! Just put a bunch of money into rotors, brakes, wheel bearing, CSB for the driveshaft.... any words of encourage or am I fucked?? Feel like I just lost a family member������

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First I would open up the oil filter and even drop the oil pan to see how much/what the shavings look like and go from there. I am local to you and could help out possibly...
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Find out what is going on before you get too bummed out. For example, if rod bearings and no damage to the crank, then you have about a $1500-$2000 repair bill. Not cheap, but not the end of the world.

If the motor is really toast, then if it were me, I would look for a good used motor and sell the old motor as spare parts to Clemster.

Keep posting, lot of experience here to help you out, no matter what it turns out to be.

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FWIW, I was burning a quart every 250 miles when it got worse... I had the Clemster install a used motor into my M5 (my wife made me let him do it...) and it's running better than ever!
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Well last week I'm driving to the gym (2002 E39 M5 with 84,000 miles)and suddenly I get the message "STOP OIL PRESSURE". I immediately get off the road and turn off the car and have it towed to my mechanic. Oil level was okay when I stopped by some whitish stuff on the top and bottom of dipstick. The car has been getting louder than it's normal Vanos knock lately but running like a scalded ape!! Mechanic just informs me that there is metal(aluminum) and bearing material in the oil. He said the car probably lost oil pressure and suffered a catastrophic failure. Of course that made my ******* day!! Just put a bunch of money into rotors, brakes, wheel bearing, CSB for the driveshaft.... any words of encourage or am I fucked?? Feel like I just lost a family member😞😞😞
Sorry to hear...seems like you have owned this car since 2002, so I definitely understand how you feel. Agree with Jerry - best to wait to find out the whole story. I would be freaking out as well. Keep us posted.

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We are probably going to do that. Where are you located?
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I am in Clarkston, work in Warren.
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Absolutely correct. No sense in getting excited until you know.
3 or 4 years ago I had a car towed to me that presented near identical symptoms. Found metal in the pan but looked further and what appeared to have happened was the oil pump tensioner failed and the chain climbed the gear which bent the shaft and destroyed the pump. The failed tensioner makes then noisy. We found lots of aluminum and bushing/bearing material. Logic was if the pump failed ,and all the material was from it, that would have prevented any material going into the engine. We looked no further the owner was prepared to just throw a pump on it and see. That seemed to do the trick, because last I heard it was still a DD.

Besides there seem to be quite a few engines available for these cars now as a lot have had wrecks in recent years. Certainly not the death of the car but heart surgery is still expense.

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Absolutely correct. No sense in getting excited until you know.
3 or 4 years ago I had a car towed to me that presented near identical symptoms. Found metal in the pan but looked further and what appeared to have happened was the oil pump tensioner failed and the chain climbed the gear which bent the shaft and destroyed the pump. The failed tensioner makes then noisy. We found lots of aluminum and bushing/bearing material. Logic was if the pump failed ,and all the material was from it, that would have prevented any material going into the engine. We looked no further the owner was prepared to just throw a pump on it and see. That seemed to do the trick, because last I heard it was still a DD.

Besides there seem to be quite a few engines available for these cars now as a lot have had wrecks in recent years. Certainly not the death of the car but heart surgery is still expense.
Thanks!! I hope that is what happened to my car. It was getting pretty noisy could actually hear the ticking and rattling inside the car and until about 2500rpm. The car was running strong. We will see. Unfortunately my mechanic is basically a one man show and is backed up 15 cars. This could take a while.....
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If the motor is really toast, then if it were me, I would look for a good used motor and sell the old motor as spare parts to Clemster.


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Jerry
Or better yet, spend a little more and get a newly rebuilt S62 that costs substantially less than a new motor from BMW and is substantially better. Then instead of a mystery engine, you have something you can rely upon for 150-200k miles.

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