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post #81 of 105 Old 10th January 2017, 01:36 AM Thread Starter
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I got my new wheels in today, but unfortunately UPS took their sweet time and didn't get them delivered until 10 minutes to 6pm, so installation won't happen until tomorrow. The wheels look fantastic, as expected.


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Got the wheels put on this afternoon and the Discount Tire guys kept giving me a bunch of reasons why they wouldn't work, while I had to keep convincing them they would. First, it was the service adviser saying that the lugs wouldn't work because of the different seating. Huh?! Then he realized he was thinking of Mercedes. Ugh.

Next was the one I was already familiar with... We test fit one of the rear wheels and it just isn't going to work... it rubs the inner fender liner. Well, of course it does when the car is up in the air. The wheels sit a lot closer to the fender liner when the suspension is at full droop, but I assured them it would fit once they put the car down on the ground. Then I caught a guy checking it again once they put the tires on and he was trying to turn the wheel and it was not turning very well. I went out and assured him again, LOL. Once they were all on, car on the ground, torqued lugs, it all started to make sense to them . All was right with the world.

As for the vibration I was trying to eliminate by buying new wheels, it seems to be completely gone. These wheels are 10 lbs lighter per wheel in the front and 12 lbs lighter per wheel in the back than the style 95s. I didn't toss the car around too much since I still had the 95s in the back seat and trunk, but I could tell it was a bit peppier. It also seemed like the wheels stayed planted on the ground better over bumps in the road, like the suspension could react quicker, so that's nice. My brakes need to be bed in again, as I'm getting some pulsation, but they were like that with the old wheels as well and I plan on putting my M5 brakes on soon. I'm hoping JimLev will be able to powder coat the calipers before the VIR HPDE in April, but I'm not holding my breath since he said he still needs to acquire some new equipment. Now that I have some really "open" wheels, it's going to be that much more interesting to have some nice looking calipers behind them.

Once I get the car all cleaned up, I'll take some outside pics. For now you get the one at the beginning of the post .

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Here's one more pic, but it doesn't look that great since it needed the flash to see much and that just shows everything in the wheel well that would normally be dark.



I'm also definitely considering some lowering springs at some point as well. I'm thinking H&R IIs, but if someone has some better options, I'm all ears. I'm more interested in comfort than handling, as I'm pretty sure anything I would be getting would be a handling improvement over the stock M5 springs, but I've heard B&G S2s are good (at least on e38s). Opinions?

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What's your current ride height? Wheel centerline to fender lip, front and rear.

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What's your current ride height? Wheel centerline to fender lip, front and rear.
I think around 13.5" or so, but I'll check later. It's pretty much the same as any M5 with Konis.

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Sorry, meant 14.5"

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I got the car all washed and ready for pics and then it started to sprinkle, so pics will come when that stops. The car looks great though. It could definitely use a bit of a drop though. I'm thinking about an inch or so all around would be perfect.

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I've heard B&G S2s are good (at least on e38s). Opinions?
I have the B&Gs. They are ok IMO. The car sits very low which I have to admit looks really awesome, but the ride quality isn't great. I probably would have chosen a set that has slightly less of a drop, but I live in CT so YMMV.

I have them paired with koni yellows which seem to be the go-to shock to use with the B&Gs. I think they do an acceptable job, but the only issue is that the springs are highly progressive and as a result it seems like the compression damping of the Konis isn't quite high enough. The first inch or two of travel can be bouncy at times. To solve that your other option would probably be Bilsteins, which would most likely perform better, but at an expense of even more ride quality.

Overall they are lowering springs so some of this has to be expected. I'd say they are a 7 out of 10. They have that dope look though so maybe 7.5 out of 10.
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I have the B&Gs. They are ok IMO. The car sits very low which I have to admit looks really awesome, but the ride quality isn't great. I probably would have chosen a set that has slightly less of a drop, but I live in CT so YMMV.

I have them paired with koni yellows which seem to be the go-to shock to use with the B&Gs. I think they do an acceptable job, but the only issue is that the springs are highly progressive and as a result it seems like the compression damping of the Konis isn't quite high enough. The first inch or two of travel can be bouncy at times. To solve that your other option would probably be Bilsteins, which would most likely perform better, but at an expense of even more ride quality.

Overall they are lowering springs so some of this has to be expected. I'd say they are a 7 out of 10. They have that dope look though so maybe 7.5 out of 10.
Good to know. I had the H&R IIs on my e38 with Bilsteins and I've ridden in and driven 2 other e38s with the Bilsteins and H&R IIs, so I'm familiar with lowering springs in general. The two other e38s rode perfectly, but both had brand new Bilsteins, while mine had used ones that I think were blown, because mine rode like crap compared to theirs. I'm happy with the ride quality of the Konis, but I would like something a bit more subtle as far as drop, so maybe the Eibachs or Dinan springs would be best to go with the Konis I already have. I've often wondered if Dinan ever did in fact change the valving in the Konis they sold with their springs. I'm hoping Chuck (CSBM5) weighs in, because I've ridden in his M5 with the Dinan suspension and his looks fantastic. If I can find someone selling some Dinan springs, I may just go with those, but if someone can tell me the Eibachs are comparable, I may change to those instead.

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