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This thread will explore what has been thought to be impossible with our cars. I've been a member here a long time, a well hated member. I've read countless threads where people with ideas are berated, ridiculed and chased away. There is a very accepted way of thinking here, and if you are on a different page, the forum consensus is 'Fvck You'. Don't let this be confused with a stupid ideas. There are no stupid questions, but there are plenty of stupid ideas.

Why does it explore the impossible? How is that possible? Well, when you explore what isn't possible, you basically have to lie. What you will see chronicled below is pretty much all fake. Trick photography and photoshopped pics showing things that aren't possible with an M5, things that go against the accepted way of thinking.

Some may ask 'Why?' Well, you don't become well hated without going against the grain a bit. I don't mind being 'that guy' it's something I've been since a young kid, now in my 30's, it's usually fun.

It may take me, at best, a few days to get this thread up to speed, but for now, know that the car is home (at my house) from a VERY long time away, and it is still going to be a long time before it runs....I mean, fake runs of course, because it's impossible. The funny thing, is over the last few years I've kept a local forum updated with my endeavors because I knew it would be more accepted. If this does bother anyone (which I doubt it will) look in the mirror and ask yourself if you're part of the hostile environment that exists here.

Why share at all? Well, what it comes right down to, is pride. I'm really proud of where I've gotten with this car. I've had lots of help, as I simply didn't have the time to do a lot of what needed to be done. I still don't but things need to get done.

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Here they are in action:


Here is the beginning and ending of my travels last night.

At the shop:


Pulling it into my shed:


Unloaded:


I'm installing a 2 post lift right where the M5 sits at the end of the month, LED lighting and workbenches to be coming shortly. Much shed work needs to be done, but hopefully concurrently with the M5 work.

Oh, and if you choose to post on this thread (which I honestly don't know why anyone would, it's fake) and I don't respond or answer your question, the odds are, you have found a place on a very long list of forum members here whom I have interacted with and deemed a POS, I apologize.
 
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Nice garage !!

So are you going Electric / Hydrogen / Hybrid ?
 
#4 ·
Good luck.
 
#6 ·
Fusion Power or GTFO!

Also, I hate you!


P.S. Of course I do not hate you! But I mean it about Fusion Power! ;)
 
#7 ·
Subscribed. FWIW, I'd love to have enough room to drive an M5 around my M5 :)
 
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I bought the car late 2007 with 98K. It was a local car but it had never seen snow. I changed that and drove it my first winter of ownership....bad idea. After winter I got to put a new fascia on, respary the front, and replace all the underbody panels. I also bought a winter beater.

Since then I've done the following Mods until the big tear down a few years ago:

New Drivers side Vanos Solenoids
Most new sensors on Engine
Refreshed trans with any part that can be replaced
Replaced all replaceable suspension components with new OEM
Put Mono Balls in the rear control arms
MonoBalls in the front thrust arms
This winter the subframe and diff bushings will be replaced
New Axles
New driveshaft
New Guibo.....awesome word
Put in a UUC V-12 clutch conversion....it spins, so doing something different
UUC Short shifter with stabilizer.....had to modify becasue it wasn't as firm as I liked
The shop I frequent built a complete header back (everything but the headers) exhaust system with custom mufflers.
I put an Eurocharged Alph-N tune in the car......whopping 2 HP ooooooooooo
I had all the side and bumper moldings painted gloss black
Changed the brushed aluminum interior trim to gloss black
Add a Brembo big brake kit. 8 Piston Front, 4 piston Rear
KW Coilovers all around

There might be more little stuff, but that is the extent of it.

So for the last three years the car has been under the knife. Majorly under the knife. When you do the impossible, it takes time. Time is what I have very little of. A well known member here once exclaimed that if you can't devote a good portion of your life to your car, then you shouldn't have a car like this. Well, he is full of crap, it just takes those of us with lives, a bit longer to do things.

This will be a Twin Turbo M5 when it is back together. Well, since that is impossible, it won't really be Twin Turbo, it will just look and function as if it is, but it wont be. I know it's confusing, but it is the state of affairs here on this forum.

Where do we put the Turbos?





Scary right? More on that later

How do we make headers?
With a lot of time and ingenuity. Curses to the guy that designed and placed the steering box in our car. I hope he spends eternity opening advil bottles and pulling the cotton out.



You create a fixture/jig of sorts

And you tack a bunch of Schedule 40 Stainless together

That is the Passenger side.....the 'easy side'
Then you have this....



The nightmare drivers side.
Note to future builders.....I HATE log manifolds......If we did this over, there would be a log manifold there.

Some mock-up pics

Hi Clutch.....





Most of those are of the Pass. side, but you can see the gore and carnage we had to do to make the stuff 'fit' yes, I use that term loosely. I will have more progress pics later when I have the car up in the air again.

There will be further updates on Major suspension upgrades as well. Still playing catch up.
 
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Sounds like something major under the hood. Nice Tillman welding gloves.
 
#11 ·
Looks like some pretty minor mods. How fast is it?
 
#13 ·
Glad to see your shed has concrete and insulation. It'll be nice and warm when I come up to help with the build this winter.
 
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They are not Jigs, they are stainless collectors merged out of a solid piece. If we were to do it again, they would be 2 piece so they would be easier to finish.

The holes To Get the exhaust to be where we need it. The wastegates and piping took up a lot of room the turbos are not economy sized either.
 
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The odds are slim, but that is actually the goal. Biggest hurdle is the hologram technology to make the car look real in real life. Much more difficult than photoshop.

Keep on trucking man.. Some said an E60 TT was not possible either.
Neat!
 
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No surprise to me. You've been the subject of my automotive man-crush ever since you started down this path. (And since you started fabricating all that uber-cool stuff for me).

Glad you finally posted here!

Here's to the impossible (which, according to a thread I unwittingly got caught up in over the past 24 hours, includes using a pop-off valve on a supercharged S62 in lieu of a traditional BOV)!

Credence to board posts claiming impossibility I now dispense very sparingly if ever. More typically, such posts push me to explore even further that which is claimed to be so far beyond the pale. Like an E39 M5 that turns 1:59s on VIR's full course. Like a twin turbo E39 M5 with huge holes cut in the frame to accommodate the piping and putting what likely will be in excess of 1k HP to the rear wheels.

You go girl.

--Peter
 
#35 ·
Best of luck looking forward to final product.
 
#36 ·
Nice start! Can't wait to see the final product. I've built several turbo cars in the past, all of which had a LOT more available real estate under the hood than our cars do, so my hat's off to you. You've embarked on quite the voyage.

Best of luck!!
 
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