New Shifter Product; Thoughts?

Need4Spd · 17th July 2004, 17:57

I was just browsing the UUC site and came across their new shift selector rod, which they call a DSSR. It sure looks cool compared to the stock rod.

The idea is to address the wear at the transmission pivot end by spreading the shear forces over the faces of the rod. It also helps remove free play from the joints generally.

Here's a stock, worn joint.

The site doesn't say whether you get a new bushing for the transmission selector or not, or whether that's even replaceable. So I suppose this means that if the bushing is already worn, you may be out of luck. However, it seems like good preventative maintenance if your bushing is in good shape.

At present, there isn't an application for e39 M5s, or for guys like me who have the older EVO2 shifter. Any thoughts on whether or not this is or is not a good idea assuming one comes available? I remember what a PITA it was to replace my original selector rod and am not looking forward to doing this again, but it sure seems tempting (once/if the part becomes available).

For comparison, here's a Rogue WSR next to a factory rod.

SC'dKellenersM5 · 17th July 2004, 18:08

Need,

While not 100% sure on the replacment bushing, i would suspect that UUC would include a new one with the kit, as without it..many vehicles could not take part in this new design.

A while back, i spoke with UUC and they do have at least one M5 that is soon to be installed or is already installed. I have even been in contact with UUC to let me field test the DSSR as well as I did before the Evo3 was released.

Best bet, speak with Rob from UUC. Yet, i suspect, that the bushing would be replaced and would be a great addition to anyones shifter/transmission

gra8fuldd ed · 17th July 2004, 18:42

Hmmm ... Just thinking out loud.

Isn't the NEW UUC "DSSR" PART the same part that ...

Rogue Engineering calls their WSR - "Weighted Selector Rod"??

If it is the same part ... Then it would have been nice for UUC to put up the comparison against the WSR and NOT against the Stock Selector Rod.

After all ... Rogue is the competition ... and NOT BMW.

BKH · 17th July 2004, 19:00

I have a WSR but not the SS kit which I didn't want. Installed in the OE shifter setup the WSR makes a modest improvement in smoothness and positive shifting. It's subtle, though.

Rob Levinson · 17th July 2004, 21:09

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Originally Posted by Need4Spd

The site doesn't say whether you get a new bushing for the transmission selector or not, or whether that's even replaceable. So I suppose this means that if the bushing is already worn, you may be out of luck. However, it seems like good preventative maintenance if your bushing is in good shape.

We don't supply a new selector joint.

The DSSR's purposes:

1) Fix worn selector rod joint bushing looseness.

2) Fix OE or aftermarket plastic bushing looseness.

3) Prevent looseness from developing in new selector rod joint bushing, new OE or aftermarket plastic bushing shifter.

#1 is the important thing to consider for DIY'ers... the selecotr joint is actually a royal PITA to remove. Even with a transmission removed from the car, giving full access, it's still difficult. The DSSR "fixes" a worn selector joint bushing by boxing in the entire joint and redistributing the points of contact.

There is nothing wrong with replacing the selector joint, and the part is only about $11... but it's not necessary with the DSSR.

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At present, there isn't an application for e39 M5s, or for guys like me who have the older EVO2 shifter.

There will be very soon. We have it queued up for production, should be available before the end of July.

Rob Levinson · 17th July 2004, 21:15

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Originally Posted by gra8fuldd ed

Hmmm ... Just thinking out loud.

Isn't the NEW UUC "DSSR" PART the same part that ...

Rogue Engineering calls their WSR - "Weighted Selector Rod"??

No. Look at the pictures. The WSR is a duplicate of the factory part (the proverbial "gold plated wheel bearing cap") and the the DSSR is a new-design, purpose-built part.

The DSSR has very different stated purposes than the WSR. Another difference is that the DSSR actually accomplishes those purposes.

For the in-depth description of the DSSR, please see:

http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/dssr/

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After all ... Rogue is the competition ... and NOT BMW.

Nope again. UUC's true competition is high-quality products like the Autosolutions shifter (which I've always said is a very nice product), not cheap duplicates of the plastic factory parts like that.

But since you ask...

UUC:

Guess who:

- Rob

gra8fuldd ed · 17th July 2004, 22:13

Rob:

I have Your UUC Shifter along with Rogue's WSR and it seems to be just fine.

I'm not sure which version of the UUC I have ... I bought mine in April or May of '03

Rob Levinson · 17th July 2004, 22:21

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Originally Posted by gra8fuldd ed

Rob:

I have Your UUC Shifter along with Rogue's WSR and it seems to be just fine.

Cool. You may see an improvement with the DSSR. I should do a "WSR trade-in" program...

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I'm not sure which version of the UUC I have ... I bought mine in April or May of '03

That's an EVO2. We will have EVO2-specific DSSRs available. It converts the bearing system to the EVO3 full-liner style for easy installation. The plan is to have no difference in price for this version versus standard DSSR.

- Rob

Need4Spd · 17th July 2004, 22:49

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That's an EVO2. We will have EVO2-specific DSSRs available. It converts the bearing system to the EVO3 full-liner style for easy installation. The plan is to have no difference in price for this version versus standard DSSR.

Thanks, Rob. I'll be waiting, too. Mine is the previous version, too.

19th July 2004, 13:15

The M5 community is lucky to have UUC!

Cheers.