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Old 10th February 2004, 04:17   #1
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Supersprint Headers/cats, Evosport 3.45 diff. & RMS shifter installed!

Just got back from Columbus, OH. after the install of the SS headers & cats, the Evosport custom 3.45 diff. and the RMS short shifter. The diff. was put in first by my dealer and a race shop put in the headers, etc. because I wanted to use their in-house dyno for pre & post dyno.

The diff. feels great, like I always thought the M5 should feel. Great bang for the buck. I have a 30% fixed lockup and a 2X dynamic lockup. To answer some questions I've been asked about the diff. and increased lockup: first, tire wear (inside wheel drag):

"You will have more tire wear on cornering--MORE EVEN tire wear. With
the current lockup ratio, you have less tire wear on 1 tire only, as 1 is
doing more work than the other. The more even the lockup, the more even
your tire wear will be."

Second, understeer/oversteer:
Oversteer/Understeer:

"With more lockup you will have may have more understeer leading into a
turn. However, this is only if you are flooring it going into the turn. As you
stated on the phone, you wait to accelerate hard until the apex of the turn,
and thus would notice minimal, if any at all, increase in understeer. Even
if you do throttle-hard into the turn, with a 40% lockup there would only be
a minimal increase in understeer. A 75% lockup would be another story...

Oversteer, which again would only be if you accelerate hard into a turn in
wet conditions (which obviously is not recommended) would only be a minimal
change with the 30-40% lockup. However, the way we determined to build your differential, with a 2x dynamic lockup, you would have the power much
faster, and thus could find yourself in a dangerous position--again, only if
you throttle hard into the turn." (Thanks Ben at Evosport for the quoted answers!) Bottom line, for me at least, the diff. is great. The engine is revving a bit higher, but for my beast it corrected some inherent inadequacies.

Next, SS header and cats: All I can say is wow! Expensive, but worth every penny. Top notch ceramic coating, fabulous sound and power galore! I'm still smiling. Tony & I switch cars for a bit on the way home. Tony's engine has always felt stronger than mine, but he feels that 6th gear in mine now feels like 4th gear in his! The sound is gorgeous! The back burble I used to get from the SS x-pipe now is simply succulent! The difference in acceleration is incredible. I did not do a post dyno YET, because I wanted to dyno it after the Powerchip software created for Evosport to account for the headers is installed. I was somewhat disappointed by my pre-install dyno of 338.91HP and 317.53 for torque. I expect about a 30HP increase with the headers and software, but we'll see.

Finally, the RMS short shifter: This replaced my Rogue Octane shifter with WSR. I liked the Rogue a lot, but I still felt the throws were longer than I wanted. Effort was great and shifting was always precise, with no vibration. The RMS shifter is adjustable. I had it installed with the setting as it arrived to me. The throw fells significantly shorter than the Rogue and there is NO increased effort at all... why I'm not sure. The shifting is precise with a nice, prounounced "snick...snick". I am going to leave the setting where it is for now, but at sometime, I may try one setting shorter and see how that feels.

Anyway, I dropped a lot of dough into these mods., but I am very happy with the results.
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Old 10th February 2004, 04:30   #2
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Back 'er down in Washington County!

I hope you two throttled back for those last 20 miles of I-77! I still have nightmares about the enforcement on that stretch, and it's been twenty years! I can only imagine the salivation that's triggered in a Trooper by a pair of Beasts in flight!!

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I was somewhat dissapointed by my pre-install dyno of 338.91HP and 317.53 for torque. I expect about a 30HP increase with the headers and software, but we'll see.
Why the disappointment with your baseline pulls? 339 is better than most I've seen, although the TQ might be a tad low. My last was 341 BHP /326 TQ (SS cat-back being only powertrain mod).

I'm eager to see your post-install pulls.

Glad you're enjoying the mods!

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Old 10th February 2004, 04:35   #3
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Re: Supersprint Headers/cats, Evosport 3.45 diff. & RMS shifter installed!

Dave, I was a bit dissapointed because I felt that that HP figure was OK for bone stock. I thought it should be a bit higher because of my SS exhaust and x-pipe and cold air intake. I remember pre and post dyno of the beast at the time of exhaust install and seems to me I did get 8 HP increase...I'll have to look for that chart.
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Re: Supersprint Headers/cats, Evosport 3.45 diff. & RMS shifter installed!

Dave, just found my old dyno figures:

Pre-SS exhaust & x-pipe: 335.3HP 324.8TQ

Post exhaust & x-pipe: 340.1HP 328.0TQ

So, by those figures, my PRE headers dyno was a bit down in both HP & TQ. However, I suspect there may be some variability in dynos, even the same make and model at different locations, and of course, ambient temp. and humidity were probably different. To be honest, I'm not sure what it all means! Let's see what happens after the Powerchip software is in. ALso, forgot to mention and not sure if this would have any bearing on dyno, but I had on 17" snow tires at the time of the PRE headers dyno.

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Steve, Congrats! Quick question for you...........

Okay, so you still have & kept the SS X-Pipe, right?
So, the headers along with the X-Pipe isn't out of control loud ????
Meaning your neighbors give you the evil eye stare down. You know what I mean.
Please let us know, okay.
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Re: Supersprint Headers/cats, Evosport 3.45 diff. & RMS shifter installed!

I don't think it's exceptionally louder. Definitely a bit throatier & with a bit more back burble. I'll let you know if my neighbors ask me to leave the neighborhood! No one came running out of their house tonight when I drove home up my street.
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Re: Supersprint Headers/cats, Evosport 3.45 diff. & RMS shifter installed!

FAST 5,

I've got the SS x pipe and exhuast and it was ok till i added the supercharger which must have made it 30% louder..... I wonder how its going to sound after installing headers, down pipe + racing cats

I will let you know if my neighbors kick me out !!!

P.S. its going to be pumping more power now with the extra parts that will be going in. More power = louder = higher chance of getting kicked out
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Re: Supersprint Headers/cats, Evosport 3.45 diff. & RMS shifter installed!

Robert, if I can figure out how to use the video option on my camera I'll post to show how loud headers with B&B is. Angry neighbor loud, I believe it's all from the muffs. though.
Black M5 , I noticed a louder m3 when I s/c'ed it, then when I went turbo I thought it would get quieter, but the 3" exhaust made it deeper than the twin 2.5" at idle....
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Re: Supersprint Headers/cats, Evosport 3.45 diff. & RMS shifter installed!

Hey Steve,

Congrats Man on the Great mods.

Keep posting buddy, I want to know ALL.

How is it on start up and shut down? (No differnce hopefully)

Still fires up instantly and shuts off straight away?

Do you leave Tony behind in a drag race?

How many car lengths are you pulling?

Come on man, I want details. Good Job buddy.
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Re: Supersprint Headers/cats, Evosport 3.45 diff. & RMS shifter installed!

Congrats on your new mods and thanks for the feed back. Did you drive your car after the diff install prior to the header/cat to compare the torque increase on your diff prior to the hp gains of the headers?

I'll be calling evo sports today...I'm planning on the diff and the headers, but don't think I'll be putting on the cats.

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