SDImolaS2

Hi guys. I'm the new owner of a slightly used 03 M5 with a full Dinan S2 package (except wheels). Love the car, but am trying to get to the bottom of some shifting problems. The previous owner had a Rogue SSK intalled (had receipts for rest of mods but not for SSK) and wasn't sure exactly what was installed with it (WSR and bushings??) I'm trying to track down the mechanic who installed it.
The gearbox is great except for difficult shifting into second and a metallic noise/vibration during the entire shift from 2nd to 3rd that seems to increase with RPM. The shift from first to second is much tougher than any other upshift. Very notchy most of the time. The 3-2 downshift is nearly impossible to make. Seems like the slot is hard to find and resistance to going in is very strong. This stands out even more because all the rest of the up/down shifts are short, smooth and precise.
After running a search there seems to be a few other threads referring to simular issues. Unfortunatley, they didn't reflect a sollution other than returning to stock, in the threads I found.
It seems that there are a number of other SSK owners who are very happy so I'm hoping this is just an install problem that can be rectified. My dealer seems willing to take this on but uncertain of what to do other than to return to stock.
Any thoughts out there as to what the problem is???? Also any recomendation for shops/mechanics in the San Diego/ S. LA area familiar with BMW SSK install problems.

Want to get the one blemish on this awesome car cleared up.

Thanks,
Paul
new owner

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03 M5 Imola/Black: Sport,Shades,M Bass
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Dinan forged wheels
Passport SRX
Lojack
Ultimate Cupholders
Jabbra Bluetooth
StopTech SS brake lines
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Need4Spd

Congratulations on your purchase and welcome to the community! You should try the search function as it's very helpful, but from what I recall of the SSK threads, the Rogue is supposed to be one of the smoother shifting SSKs somewhat in the middle in terms of how much it shortens throws. If there is difficulty shifting and/or vibration, the cause might well be elsewhere. All SSK work by changing the geometry of the shifter, exchanging more shift effort (less mechanical leverage) for the shorter throws. Anyway, I'd try two things before going back to a stock shifter. First install the Rogue Tranny mounts if they're not already in there. This keeps the tranny from moving around during shifting; it may be binding because of the movement. Second, try changing the fluid. There is a serious debate going over whether to convert to aftermarket fluid. After reading everything, I've decided to stick with OEM fluid, which I replaced with fresh. Often this cures hard shifting problems. FYI, the UUC shifter that I have supposedly vibrates more than Rogue's design, which uses a plastic ball pivot like the OEM one, but I've not had any vibration issues, so I really have a hard time thinking your problem is due to the Rogue SSK.

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ELEVENS

Hi Paul. Welcome. Wow, it sounds like you found a most beautiful car

If it were mine, I'd put the shifter back to stock to provide a baseline from which to judge the tranny and clutch. This might also be useful for warranty issues.

Let us know how it works out. Do you have any pics that you can post of your new M5?

-Bill

Lincoln

If you have the WSR (Weighted Selector Rod)...make sure it's installed correctly. I've heard that this part can be installed backwards. If that isn't your problem, I highly recommend the Autosolutions SSK.

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SDImolaS2

Talked to Ben at Rogue Engineering and he said it is possilbe to install the Selector Rod backwards and that it will rub on the driveshaft/coupler. He said you should be able to see a black decal at the back end of the selector rod where it connects to the shifter if is intalled correctly. He also recomneded shifting the car thru the gears and watching the linkage from below while on a lift.
My tech at Cunningham BMW and I are going to press with this tomorrow. Hopefully this works. If not we will probably go back to stock and proceed from there.
I really appreciate the input guys. Will post an update.

Happy Drives,