I noticed while driving my moms 330i that even when I turned off the DSC, it stil intervened when I tried to bring the tail out a bit. I wasnt trying anythihng stupid or crazy, just giving it a bit of gas around an empty bend in the wet. I first tried a really gently nudge, thought I felt the DSC kick in even though I turned it off. Then I made 100% sure that I switched it off, and the came back to the same corner and mashed the gas and swung the car around the corner and......NOTHING!! the comp kicked in and did not let it come out at all, with the DSC off!!! What gives? Does the M5 do this too? Or is this a glitch in her car? Please don't get the wrong idea, why should we tell this guy anything, he's just a psycho driver trying to ruin a car. No really I'm not, I was just wondering and wanted to have a tiny bit of fun. Any ideas as to why the car does this?