M5 vs the Audi RS's - The Unofficial BMW M5 Messageboard (m5board.com)

matthewpenn · 4th July 2003, 01:04

Has anybody here actually driven or talked to someone who has driven the audi rs cars? i want some subjective comments from someone who's driven both cars before i believe for one second that the RS cars are better than my M5. you can call me queen of de-nile, but i don't believe it.

luxobarge · 4th July 2003, 02:04

If you do a search for the Rs model you'r interested in I'm sure you'll find what you are looking for. Below is one of the threads you'll find and one article published on the main page.

Regards/Robert

http://www.bmwm5.com/vbulletin/showt...ight=RS6+video

http://www.bmwm5.com/articles/rs6/rs6.html

matthewpenn · 4th July 2003, 06:46

hey thanks luxo for the links - those were very informative. i just wondered if anyone here had actually driven one and "felt" like it was better than their M5. I know that's not an objective comparison but i wonder how much emotion the audi's really bring out of their owners.

i mean, because i really dig my car - almost to the point of being wierd, you know? and i just don't get excited at all about the Audis. I wonder if someone's driven one or knows more firsthand to say whether they had the etheral feedback that our M5s give us.

My assumption is i doubt it, but i wonder nonetheless. probably not that good of a topic i've posed here, but i get hacked when somebody tries to say their car is better than my beloved M5. I want to hear somebody say they waste hours talking about their RS online to other rabid users like we do!!

MIB · 4th July 2003, 07:19

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Originally posted by matthewpenn
before i believe for one second that the RS cars are better than my M5. you can call me queen of de-nile, but i don't believe it.

Hey Matt,

When your in the Beast, your not Queen of anything, Your KING.

I just killed an RS6 today from the lights. It was both fast and furious. I got the jump on him, and he never even drew up beside. Only got to third then came to next set of lights at which he turned off. He did give me the wave, but I suspect that wasn't his turn, by the look on his face.
Its a shame, because I would have like to have run him upto higher speeds. Oh well next time.

Bring on the Audi's, Yoda and I aren't afraid.

MIB · 4th July 2003, 07:28

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Originally posted by MIB
Hey Matt,

When your in the Beast, your not Queen of anything, Your KING.

I just killed an RS6 today from the lights. It was both fast and furious. I got the jump on him, and he never even drew up beside. Only got to third then came to next set of lights at which he turned off. He did give me the wave, but I suspect that wasn't his turn, by the look on his face.
Its a shame, because I would have like to have run him upto higher speeds. Oh well next time.

Bring on the Audi's, Yoda and I aren't afraid.

My point being, that if the Audi guys were as enthusiastic about their Audis as We are about our Beasts, he would know his Audi as well as I know Yoda.

Lesson learned, KNOW thy Beast.

It is very rewarding.

Gustav · 4th July 2003, 09:47

I drove one and I liked it. But I like the M5 more. See on the video how it accelerates. An M3 was faster.

SUPRA · 4th July 2003, 09:58

Matthew, don't listen to Gustav he's too biased

There are plenty of stories at www.RS6.com.

I've driven both and to make it short I'd say the BMW requires more from the driver (hence the term Driver's Car?) while the RS6 is much easier to drive. Now easier doesn't mean slower.
Even my mom could do a sub 5 second run in the RS6 over and over again. If she dared.

And probably if it was wet too.

You can talk to johann as well.

And...there are 2 videos of the RS6 and the M3.

RS6 - M3 - Real Media

MIB · 4th July 2003, 10:25

Sorry Supra,

But no way was that M5 Launched well. It bogged down so much, it almost stalled. Time the bog down, it was almost 2 full seconds.

I suppose it was a tribute to the RS6 and couldn't have it getting spanked by the Beast.

I'm talking about the bottom left video with the Sterling Beast.

Watch the Launch closely. If you've ever tried to Launch a Beast, You'll know exactly what the driver did, and exactly how badly it effected the run.

I've been practising my launches for awhile now, and that launch resembles some of my first ones.

That was a 13.8 to a 14.1 type of launch their. Line them up again, this time, without the Beast having a huge bog down.

MIB · 4th July 2003, 10:32

Actually on second look, He spun the wheels then stopped them from spinning and bofggeg down.

Totally muffed the launch.

SUPRA · 4th July 2003, 10:50

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Originally posted by MIB
Sorry Supra,
But no way was that M5 Launched well. It bogged down so much, it almost stalled. Time the bog down, it was almost 2 full seconds.
I suppose it was a tribute to the RS6 and couldn't have it getting spanked by the Beast.
I'm talking about the bottom left video with the Sterling Beast.
Watch the Launch closely. If you've ever tried to Launch a Beast, You'll know exactly what the driver did, and exactly how badly it effected the run.

You mean the video "Tribute to the RS6" I guess.
I never said that M5 was launched well. Blame the owner of the car who was behind the wheel not me.

We only did 2 starts from zero to spare the M5. (Both cars were on winter tires btw.) The reason why I chose that clip was because in the other the RS6 driver (certainly not me!) started with his front tires far away from straight resulting in the car going hard left in the beginning. Didn't look too good if you understand...but nevertheless the RS6 won that race.
So I only had 2 clips to chose from and the one you've seen, yes the driver gets a really bad start.
BUT that is exactly part of my point. With the RS6 you can do almost what you like, even a moron can drive ultra-fast while the M5 takes its man and you will not win the race if you make any mistakes.

We've been over this before but my conclusion from the M5 - RS6 test we did together (we would certainly have liked to do more tests) plus any other figures on the web/magazines is that the M5 will never win from 0 - 100 km/h. From 0 - 160 km/h and 0 - 200 km/h it seems to be very dependent on the car you have or who is driving the M5. I have not counted how many times the M5 won over the RS6 and vice versa in magazines but maybe one should.

Rolling start also seems to be very dependent on who goes first and 'coincidence.'
We did a few rolling starts as well and I can't really come to any conclusion. A few times the M5 won a few times the RS6 won.
But we could only go up to about 200 km/h becasue of the road layout. If everything's stock I'd bet my money on the M5 above 160 km/h.

Last time I was trying to measure a 500 bhp RS6 100 - 200 km/h (Gustav's request) Mr. Murphy paid us a visit and it started snowing in spring time.

So we do our best to find out 'the Truth' but it is never easy.

But one thing is very clear, the sound from Kellners exhaust fitted to the Sterling Silver M5 is way better than stock RS6.