Originally posted by rodd Hi Max, I have left a message with Andrew and thankyou for the ALS contact; a quick question though- was the 20RWKw gain with the headers alone, or did you include the gains of the Powerchip and\ or cat -back free flowing exhausts? It isnt clear from previous posts. thanks agin for the help- this thread is proving to be one of the more fascinating ones !!! Rodd.
The exhaust, Powerchip ver 1 etc were already on the car, the 20 rw kw was from the headers alone!
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2002 Carbon Black/Silerstone M5 Beast
Powerchip Gold Ver2
DF Motorsport temp sensor relocation kit
Evosport UD Power pulleys/Fan delete
Nowack style underside insulation of plenum
BMC Carbon Dynamic Air Box System with Ram CAI
4>2>1 Ceramic coated custom hand-made s/steel headers and hi-flow cats
Plasma coils, Rennsport velocity stacks
Supersprint X-pipe and SuperSprint mufflers
UUC SSK, Rouge performance mounts, RP Synchromax
KW Varient 2 Coilovers, BeastPower rear brackets
Stoptech 4 wheel big brake kit with front brake ducts
ACS Metal pedals, Momo s/steel gearshift
Hamman front splitters, 70% window film
Dronell Type II wheels 8.5x19f & 10x19 r with 245f / 275r Yokohama AVS tyres
3.64 ratio Quaife diff change
Originally posted by Teutonaddict FAST4DR, if conditions permit, we'll try some of the 4th gear pulls you suggested.
I am of the mind that cold, hard, objective data is the only truth on these matters. And if gains cannot be measured reliably on a dyno (...then don't make claims?...), then a reasonable sample of 1/4-mile slips or lap times could provide some more objective insight.
Originally posted by FAST4DR Great. Can't wait to hear your feedback.
Dave-
As luck would have it, we had lousy weather here on Friday. Najeeb (01M5) and Bobby (bmurphy) and I got together at a local speed shop, Motorbahn, so Najeeb could get his Rogue SS installed. We then fed our butt-meters (first step to proper calibration) at a local BBQ joint.
Unfortunately, the rain did not let up, making a good key-swapping cat-and-mouse session impractical. I also had my 16-month old son Jack with me, so lots of WOT driving wasn't going to happen. I opted to take a raincheck on driving Bobby's Miss Emma, so I'll have to report later.
Najeeb, however, did take the wheel for several jaunts, so he may want to report his impressions. He spoke of sharper throttle response, better part-throttle performance, and "pulling harder," but I'll let him elaborate first-hand.
When Bobby and I do get together again, I'll report it here! Sorry for the let-down.
My beast is currently in Columbus having the FK coilovers put on. I should be able to pick her up on Tuesday. I should be able to get a better feel of the new Powerchip at that time and will be able to post my impressions shortly thereafter.
Tony hasn't been able to take out his beast since we installed the Powerchip so he still has to do the "adjustment" period. I'm sure that he will post as soon as he has a good idea of the changes the chip has made.
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'02 M5 LeMans Blue:
Active Autowerke CAI/brake ducts
Supersprint Headers and cats
SuperSprint exhaust with X-pipe
Evosport custom 3.45 diff. with 30% lockup and 2x dynamic lockup
UFMotorsport intake air temp sensor relocation
Powerchip Gold (SS header/cats version)
Ignition Solutions plasma coils
Dinan Stage III suspension
BeastPower sway bar brackets
Dinan front strut tower brace
Stoptech Custom Silver Big Brake kit (fronts)
RMS short shifter
Rogue Performance transmission mounts, Royal Purple Synchromax fluid
Llumar window tint (35%)
As Dave mentioned, the weather prohibited the side to side testing (my stock vs. bmurph's) we were planning. Dave will have to do that when he gets a chance.
I did have the pleasure of driving bmurph's Beast. It is an incredible car (Dinan Stage III, Stoptech fronts, Kelleners, Powerchip, Gruppe M CAI, and 100 octane). The engine definitely pulled harder and revved with much more eagerness than my M5 (Kelleners & X-pipe). I was quite impressed to say the least. Unfortunately, I couldn't determine how much of a contribution Powerchip provided, how much CAI provided, and how much 100 octane fuel provided. Because of the weather, all of my driving was part-throttle and the benefits are noticeable in normal, around-town driving. The overall package is strong
I think this points out the reason for testing on the dyno between each modification to get more of an exact reading on how these effect the car individually. The Powerchip may be able to tie all of the modifications together so the package is worth more than the individual pieces.
Mark
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MY2001 Imola Red
Lux. Black Interior
Painted Calipers,
AC Schzitner Type III Two Piece 18 chrome wheels, Stage II HID's Low Beams and Foglights, Supersprint X-pipe (removed).
Autowerke CAI
Powerchip Software Upgrade
Stage I upgrade MB Quarts Speakers from Bavarian Soundwerks (our sponsor here)
Tubi Catback Exhaust
361RWHP
425HP and growing!
Sorry to rain on your parade, as a matter of record, my brother and myself have had the powerchips in our cars for almost 1 year now, and truely love the product!!
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Matthew
07 M5 Silverstone/Black merino extended leather, SMG, 15% tint all around.
Gone but here in spirt!!
01 M5 Jet Black/ Silverstone ext. Dinan Exhaust and Dinan software, Powerchip Ecu upgrade, K&N Filters, UUC Short Shifter, Motorsport aluminum pedal set, M-Technic Grill w/ Brake Ducts, Nav. software upgrade
01 X5 4.4 Sport silver/silver Dinan Engine and Transmission Software, Nav. software upgrade.
You didn't rain on my parade but what you have is the version 1 software. This thread has been discussing Powerchips' new version 2 software (Gold 93 ver.2)
OK... the FK coilovers were installed and tomorrow my SA is taking the beast to a racing shop in Columbus to do the alignment and check the lowering, etc. My SA said he didn't feel comfortable with the dealership doing it. Lucky for me, his brother owns this shop in Columbus and agreed to do it for me!
Anyway, I will either have my baby back late Thursday (1st time I can get up to Columbus) or sometime Saturday (If I can't get it Thursday, TonyS555 will be taking the Mini S up for service drive my baby home).
If it's dry around here this weekend I will take the beast out for a good spirited drive and post impressions of the Ver. 2 Powerchip shortly thereafter. I apologize that it has been taking so long. I don't think Tony has even been able to get his beast out of the garage yet!