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Old 18th February 2001, 17:12   #1
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Angry M-Audio deleted our door upper mid-range speakers

As most of you know, I have both a 540/6 (w/ DSP) and the M5 with M-Audio.

I was going to have a new DSP amp put in to correct my perceived lack of upper frequency ambiance that I was used to in my 540. This was going to be the dealer's fix for what appeared to be malfunctioning door upper midrange speakers - the 4 that are in the forward portion of each door's windowsill. Note: The A-pillar tweeters are working.

Today I pulled one of the door panels because I have heard of the speakers just not being hooked up (quality control issue).

Lo and Behold - there isn't even a speaker there - just a blank panel made to look like the 540's grilles.

I think this sucks. Though I love the new punch of bass, I miss the presence that the previous speakers positioning developed.

I went back and looked at the brochure and, sure enough, it stipulates 10 speaker system (the 540 says 12) so I guess they are counting the new front door co-axial speakers as two.

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Old 18th February 2001, 17:28   #2
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That just doen't sound right. There should be a speaker there. I would have to take a look at that configuration.

Ever the least expensive configuration has a speaker..

If that is the case, what a Rip...
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Old 18th February 2001, 17:55   #3
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Steve,

I don't know the locations since I don't have my car yet, but I have heard and read that the deletion of two speakers is correct. I think the explanation is that the new co-axials are two-way units, treble & midrange.

My wife was just asking yesterday if we've heard from INVICTO lately. We enjoyed your snow and deer photos! Told her you were probably still driving your M5 a lot! How many miles do you have now?

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Exactly my perception on the high end and
I am somewhat of an audiophile nut. There
is no sufficient adjustment which permits us to compensate for the lack of high end. Yesterday, I went to my local high-end car stereo store and heard an 01 530i with Dynavector (speakers) replacing the coax
and installed tweeters in the void location.
It was great and i will do the same.

Is there any trick to removing the door panel with the side impact device?

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I am sure those coaxial units sound a LOT better than the '00 ones, which is what I have...so even though you are losing a set of speakers, I think the coaxials make up for it IMHO.

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Chris,

I agree, the new co-axials sound better than the ones they replace; however, I liked having more high end up near my ears (right behind the B pillar on the rear door and by the door vent on the front) rather than muffled by my leg.

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Are you guys referring to the tweeters in the upper front section of the rear doors, just behind the B pillar??

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So, Invicto,

In your opinion, should I order mine with or without the M-Audio system? I don't mind doing a little stereo upgrade after delivery if that's the best way to go.

What's your advice being the owner of both systems simultaneously?
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Yes Andy, those are the speakers I am referring to. In my M5 they are plastic panels made to look like the original speakers. I didn't pull the front panels but I can't hear any music from that area either (again, the A-pillar tweeter and mid-door co-axial midrange sound fine).

Terrence,

If you haven't heard the original system, you won't notice the missing tweeters - Go with the M-audio and upgrade the tweeters if you like more high end (less costly than upgrading bass).

I just started the thread since I feel jilted having heard the better (IMO) high range reproduction from the original system.

That said - the M-audio bass truly rocks for a stock car stereo.

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Thanks for the advice.
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