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        Old 5th December 2002, 04:41   #1 (permalink)
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        speedometer error question

        I have a question for any of you mathmatically gifted beast owners. I just installed a set of Dunlop Wintersport M2s on basic 17" borbet type E rims (Thank you Tire Rack, $1,270 delivered). My question is how much speedometer error occurs going from the 18" to the 17" wheels? It seems as though the speedometer is reading faster than the car is going by about 10 mph when travelling around 70 mph. Is this just my imagination? Thanks for the help!

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        Old 5th December 2002, 12:52   #2 (permalink)
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        It doesn't take higher math, but we'll need more numbers off the rear tires to figure it out. Should be something like 235/50/17.
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        Old 5th December 2002, 18:17   #3 (permalink)
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        It's pretty easy to figure out yourself; rsbj is right, we just need the numbers off the new tires.
        Or you can just go to http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html and it'll do all the math for you.
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        Old 5th December 2002, 20:05   #4 (permalink)
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        Fast6, thanks so much for that Miata site. It works great! No more going to the calculator to figure this out, as I have many times in the past.
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        Hey, no problem! I do what I can...
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        Old 6th December 2002, 00:30   #6 (permalink)
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        You guys are the best!

        My snows are 235x45x17, and the nifty calculator site tells me that this creates a 1.5% speedometer error. Put another way, when the speedo says I'm doing 60, I'm really doing 59.1.

        As a side note, I had my first chance to try out the new snows today driving 30 miles in heavy snow. The Dunlop Wintersports handled it great. Thanks to all those on this site who recommended them over the Blizzacks. Great in snow and decent (not squirrely) on dry pavement.
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        It's pretty easy to figure out yourself; rsbj is right, we just need the numbers off the new tires.
        Or you can just go to http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html and it'll do all the math for you.
        Thats a great site, thank you for posting it

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        Old 6th December 2002, 23:23   #8 (permalink)
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        Nifty calculator, but you should know also that there can be a difference in how the sizes are implemented by different manufacturers. For example, a 275/35-18 tire could be a bit larger or smaller in width or circumference from manufacturer to manufacturer, or even within the same mfr but across tire models. Almost how you need to try on shoes or clothing nominally of the same size to make sure the particular pair or article you're shopping for actually fits you, you need to see each mfr's specs to verify how they may be compared to your current tires. The calculator will give you a rough idea, however, when doing plus (or in your case, minus) 1 type changes so you generally know what size should be comparable to stock in terms of diameter or rolling circumference, which is the factor affecting speedo accuracy. So, the 17 in. size with the same circumference as the stock 245/40-18 front tire is a 245/45-17. That would give you a tire as wide as stock, and the same rolling circumference in a 17 in. size., which should not affect your speedo accuracy. I don't know if that size would fit (but it seems it should). Bridgestone and Dunlop make winter tires in that size. I don't know if anyone else does. Perhaps not surprising is that the 275/35-18 rears are just about the same circumference as the 245/40-18 fronts. (The 17 in. size for the rear would then be 275/40-17 if you wanted to keep the same section width, but I don't think anyone makes this size.)

        You should also know that BMW speedos are notoriously optimistic, e.g. can read 80mph when you're really doing only 75.

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