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        Old 23rd May 2002, 07:05   #1 (permalink)
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        hmmm... m coupe or x5 4.4 for 2nd car?

        buy a used m coupe , supercharge it and have fun, fun, fun or buy a used x5 4.4 and have more utility?
        with all my $ going to steve dinan recently, getting both is not an option... i have 2 young children, otherwise, coupe for sure... is the x5 a blast to own, or more mundane after awhile? current m coupe owners seem to love their cars, but no one else seems to... resale values are way down... great deals are out there.
        any insight?
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        Old 23rd May 2002, 07:09   #2 (permalink)
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        I think the X5 will serve you better because the M coupe is pretty small, good for two people only; and you already have a M5. Unless you only like to collect ///M cars
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        Old 23rd May 2002, 07:17   #3 (permalink)
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        Re: hmmm... m coupe or x5 4.4 for 2nd car?

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        buy a used m coupe , supercharge it and have fun, fun, fun or buy a used x5 4.4 and have more utility?
        with all my $ going to steve dinan recently, getting both is not an option... i have 2 young children, otherwise, coupe for sure... is the x5 a blast to own, or more mundane after awhile? current m coupe owners seem to love their cars, but no one else seems to... resale values are way down... great deals are out there.
        any insight?

        A good friend of mine has an X5 4.4 sport. It is a blast to drive and love taking it on road trips. Has plenty of power and will offer you room for your kids. I cannot speak about the M coupe as I have never driven one. All I can say is it is due to be replaced in the fall I believe and imo it is ugly. Good luck.

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        Old 23rd May 2002, 07:19   #4 (permalink)
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        Sorry forgot to add that it hold sits value well especially for a car that retails with options at about $56k. Although M coupes have been hit hard by depreciation, you may catch some more depreciation as these cars are not that desirable.

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        Old 23rd May 2002, 08:11   #5 (permalink)
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        Well, do you have another car besides the M5 right now? If so, get the M Coupe. It is so fun to drive and it revs like an F1 car. Very tight quarters inside but it sticks like glue and literally feels like a go cart. Would make a great track car IMHO. If you do not have another car, the I guess the X5. But IMHO, it is the same thing as a 5 series, just sits higher. Not much cargo space for its class.
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        Old 23rd May 2002, 08:12   #6 (permalink)
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        Thats a hard one. I have driven an M coupe and its an absolute blast. There's actually some usable room in that hatch back (much more than the roadster) but its still a 2 seater. I have not driven an X5 but I hear its a true BMW and in Sandy an SUV makes a lot more sense. Do you want to take your M coupe or M5 up little cottonwood during January? I would go for the X5 4.4 or 4.6is. Good Luck
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        Old 23rd May 2002, 08:56   #7 (permalink)
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        Quote:
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        in Sandy an SUV makes a lot more sense. Do you want to take your M coupe or M5 up little cottonwood during January? I would go for the X5 4.4 or 4.6is. Good Luck
        hey- you know the area! i live at the base of little cottonwood and drive up it all winter with my snows on- no problem! i drove up this morning with summer tires- it was snowing! not too great of an idea...
        the 4.6is would be great if someone made 20" or even 19" snows...
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        Old 23rd May 2002, 09:10   #8 (permalink)
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        I would have to vote for the X5 as well. Being the devil's advocate here, the X5 is actually more of a comfortable car/suv than the M coupe/roadster. In the long term, the X5 would work out best.
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        Old 23rd May 2002, 10:22   #9 (permalink)
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        The M Coupes are an incredible bargain if you're looking for a little rocket. The '01 and '02 M Coupes are available for invoice or less in dealer lots. They're done making them, so if you're interested in a new one at all, you should move on it now to get the color combination that you want.

        I own one and it's a whole lot of fun to drive -- I can't imagine anyone telling you otherwise. Other positive points are:
        1) Very rare -- everyone will know you from your car
        2) Fits like a glove every time.
        2) Surprisingly useful cargo area (look at this thread from Roadfly)
        3) A wide range of accessories available because it's still a Z3, after all.
        4) Faster than the M3 with the same engine.

        Some down sides to the M Coupe?
        1) Very rare -- everyone will know you from your car
        2) Likely to be keyed rather than stolen or broken into. Causes paranoia.
        3) Only two seats require planning before you head out.
        4) Everyone wants to call it an M3 Coupe ("No, ma'am, just 'M.'")
        5) Lack of luxury features. You don't have any of the options that you might be used to in other BMWs: xenons lamps, climate control, navigation, dipping rear mirrors, 97-way power seats, rain-sensing wipers, and OBC. A big gripe is the lack of a standard keyless entry! On the plus side, it does have leather seats, cold weather package, and HK system standard. Many consider its lack of features to be a blessing, but it's something to consider regardless.
        6) Windows don't go all the way down!
        7) Considered ugly by many.

        Of course, I love my car in the end and I'm willing to deal with any issues. It's not going to do everything and go everywhere, but on a warm spring day with a nice stretch of road, it makes it all worth it. You could probably pick up a '99 M Coupe right now in the mid 20s and get rid of it by winter if you're not interested in it anymore without losing much money. To address the point of a new model coming out: BMW seems to be splitting the coupe from the roadster. The Z4 will be introduced at the end of the year and go on sale next spring as an '04 model. The Z5 will be introduced sometime next year and go on sale the following year as an '05 model, so there shouldn't be an abnormal depreciation hit when the Z4 gets introduced.

        The X5 is a great car: goes everywhere, does everything, is surprisingly quick, and is super-practical. The X5 is definitely the safer choice.
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        Old 23rd May 2002, 16:11   #10 (permalink)
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        X5 without a doubt!

        The X5 is truly an amazing vehicle. Dont hesitate on this one. You will not be dissapointed.
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        Old 23rd May 2002, 17:02   #11 (permalink)
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        Paul,

        I'm probably going to get into some hot water here with all my M5 brethren but at times I like the way the X5 handles more so than my modded M5. We take my wife's car to church every Sunday and I'm thrilled because I get the drivers seat. The car (not SUV) is an engineering marvel to me. I liken it to a 540i, but you're a little higher up. And I'm not sure if most folks know this, but it's BMW's safest overall car. Safer then the 5 and 7 series. Safest BMW period. That means a lot to me with my wife carting around my two little ones.

        I purposely ordered the 3.0l engine for her since she's so much of a lead foot and that damn little thing can scoot! Can just imagine what the 4.4l or even mighty 4.6l must feel like. It's built like a tank and can out corner most cars on the road. To me, this decision is the cliched no brainer.

        My only nit would be the lack of space behind the rear seats. BMW had to do this or the X5 wouldn't handle like it does. Any longer wheel base and it would be more ponderous like my Ford Expedition.

        Drive one and you'll buy it. I'm confident of this!

        Take care,

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