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My plug and play LED light upgrade

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#1 ·
First, thanks to whattheheck for being a pioneer in this area.
Second, before ordering any bulbs please remove your current ones and measure them! Many E39 have different size bulbs for no apparent reason..
Third, measuring allowed me to get bulbs that are ALL plug and play. No soldering or cutting away plastic. No alterations.

Now I realize people have soldered and cut away in order to fit 2 bulbs for the brightness, but I contacted autolumination/superlumination (same place) and got the brightest bulbs I could in the correct sizes I needed. I find that every light is plenty bright, except for the lower one in the trunk, which for me was a spade type 194. This one I may mess with to replace with a bigger bulb.

Here is what I needed, and most likely what you will need:

All bulbs are $9.99 and if you use superlumination.com, orders over $100 get 10% off with coupon code "10percent" :M5thumbs:

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White/type 194/T10 Wedge/ "SMT Tower II" 9 LEDs<o:p></o:p>
White/44mm/ "9 SMT LED Festoon"<o:p></o:p>
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(2) c-pillar (44mm)<o:p></o:p>
White/44mm/ "9 SMT LED Festoon"<o:p></o:p>
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(1) visor (44mm)<o:p></o:p>
White/44mm/ "12 SMT LED 360 High Flux"<o:p></o:p>
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(4) footwells (39mm)<o:p></o:p>
Blue/39mm/ "9 SMT LED Festoon"
-- I found these TOO blue for my liking. See pics below.
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(1) glovebox (39mm)<o:p></o:p>
White/39mm/ "9 SMT LED Festoon"<o:p></o:p>
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(4) map lights (ba9s)<o:p></o:p>
White/type BA9S/ "5 SMT LED ba9s"<o:p></o:p>
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(2) Tailights (39mm) special chip<o:p></o:p>
White/ "3 Chip SMT LED" w/ warning cancellation
--- I did not change these, but this is what you would need if you want to do yours.


SMT LED 360 High Flux - the 44mm will actually come with 12 LEDS unlike the one shown




9 SMT LED Festoon - used in the majority of the car



Type 194 spade bulb for my trunk (some will only need 44mm festoon, check yours before ordering)



Type BA9S for map lights. This is the biggest that will fit.



Sorry for the crappy pics, i'll get a dslr one of these days.






Thanks for looking! Easy easy mod. Just swap bulbs! :cheers:
 
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#3 ·
No errors at all. I don't think the interior lights can cause errors. I didn't do the license plate lights as I said before. I don't see the need to illuminate my plate any more than it is..
 
#5 ·
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#9 · (Edited)
Man it took a long time for people to look at this thread.. Thanks for the kind words!

The map lights are just plug and play like the other bulbs. As in my first post, this is the bulb to use:

Type BA9S for map lights. This is the biggest that will fit.
 
#10 ·
First, thanks to whattheheck for being a pioneer in this area.
Second, before ordering any bulbs please remove your current ones and measure them! Many E39 have different size bulbs for no apparent reason..
Third, measuring allowed me to get bulbs that are ALL plug and play. No soldering or cutting away plastic. No alterations.

Now I realize people have soldered and cut away in order to fit 2 bulbs for the brightness, but I contacted autolumination/superlumination (same place) and got the brightest bulbs I could in the correct sizes I needed. I find that every light is plenty bright, except for the lower one in the trunk, which for me was a spade type 194. This one I may mess with to replace with a bigger bulb.

Here is what I needed, and most likely what you will need:

All bulbs are $9.99 and if you use superlumination.com, orders over $100 get 10% off with coupon code "10percent" :M5thumbs:

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White/type 194/T10 Wedge/ "SMT Tower II" 9 LEDs<o:p></o:p>
White/44mm/ "9 SMT LED Festoon"<o:p></o:p>
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(2) c-pillar (44mm)<o:p></o:p>
White/44mm/ "9 SMT LED Festoon"<o:p></o:p>
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(1) visor (44mm)<o:p></o:p>
White/44mm/ "12 SMT LED 360 High Flux"<o:p></o:p>
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(4) footwells (39mm)<o:p></o:p>
Blue/39mm/ "9 SMT LED Festoon"
-- I found these TOO blue for my liking. See pics below.
<o:p></o:p>
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(1) glovebox (39mm)<o:p></o:p>
White/39mm/ "9 SMT LED Festoon"<o:p></o:p>
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(4) map lights (ba9s)<o:p></o:p>
White/type BA9S/ "5 SMT LED ba9s"<o:p></o:p>
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(2) Tailights (39mm) special chip<o:p></o:p>
White/ "3 Chip SMT LED" w/ warning cancellation
--- I did not change these, but this is what you would need if you want to do yours.


SMT LED 360 High Flux - the 44mm will actually come with 12 LEDS unlike the one shown




9 SMT LED Festoon - used in the majority of the car



Type 194 spade bulb for my trunk (some will only need 44mm festoon, check yours before ordering)



Type BA9S for map lights. This is the biggest that will fit.









Thanks for looking! Easy easy mod. Just swap bulbs! :cheers:
Great info. I see that you listed 1 bulb (White/44mm/ "12 SMT LED 360 High Flux"<o:p></o:p>) for the visor above (for pic 1). What bulb did you use for the 2 round lights underneath the rear view mirror?

Are there 4 lights in the rear (not sure what they are called, but 1 round and 1 trapezoid shape on each side)? I see that you listed 2 bulb for the c-pillar ((2) c-pillar (44mm) White/44mm/ "9 SMT LED Festoon"). Did you replace the bulbs for all 4 or just 2?
 
#11 ·
I believe you are speaking about the "map lights". There are 4 in the car: 2 on either side of the visor light, and two in the rear on the c-pillars. See my post right before yours for the correct bulb for map lights.

(4) map lights (ba9s)<o:p></o:p>
White/type BA9S/ "5 SMT LED ba9s"<o:p></o:p>
 
#12 ·
russap - what color are your bulbs? in the pics it looks a bit blue. I was looking to get the whitest I could find. are these bulbs the brightest ones they carry?

thanks


Very nice. Superlumination is a great company to work with. I used their LED's throughout my whole car including the license plate bulbs which do not through codes.....

Great work!!
timmay77 what bulbs did you use for license plate lights that didn't throw a code?
 
#14 ·
russap - what color are your bulbs? in the pics it looks a bit blue. I was looking to get the whitest I could find. are these bulbs the brightest ones they carry?

thanks
These were the brightest bulbs I could do that would fit. Basically, the most LEDs per bulb I could get to fit. They are very very white. My door footwell lights are blue though, because I bought blue bulbs. Everything else is as white as can be.
 
#16 · (Edited)
Interior bulbs are pretty easy for LED conversion.

Here are my prototype full LED fogs fitted to my E24 M6. Each lamp has 100 low angle (8-10 degree) LED lamps, arranged to stagger the beam 90-100 degees horizontal, and 8-10 degees vertical. These are old pics, I have just upgraded the lamps to newer 1800 candela white. Total effect is close to 75 W halogen, but with under 5 watts total power.



 
#17 · (Edited)
Just wanted to bump an old thread and thank russap5 for his guide. I replaced all my interior bulbs with their LED version, but oddly enough, the map reading lights on either side of the rear view mirror wouldn't work. The LED bulbs work (I tested them all before fitting), but they just won't come on once fitted. The BA9S isn't directional is it? The same bulbs worked perfectly fine in the rear map reading lights...

Oh, and I tried replacing the sunvisor lights (2x festoon on either side), but they flickered enormously when moving the visor, so I undid those again.

edited to add Seems that not all wiring is created equal and read several reports of Ford/BMW/Mazda owners who have problems with the polarity on map reading lights. :(
 
#19 ·
Reviving an old thread, I am having the same problem with the map reading lights in the front, the rears work just fine. I imagine it's the polarity thing for me. Is it possible to simply reverse the polarity on the back of the PCB or can pins be swapped in the connector for the map reading lights?

If anyone has any information on this it would be gratefully received.
 
#21 ·
Bringing back an old thread... Same as those that left off, all the LED's worked fine except the small, front map lights on the sides. I believe it's a polarity issue. Anyone have good luck stuffing LED's in there lately?

Which bulbs did you use exactly? ( and where to buy)

Thx-
 
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