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Old 5th October 2009, 19:20   #21
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yeah but the rears doesn't fit on our cars.. they are smaller in diameter i thought..+they are also 2 piston calipers so its not a improvement on our cars..

just the fronts are worthwhile and cheap against the other brands.


on a side note, did anybody knew that the brakes used on the new x6M are 395 front/6pot- and 385/4 pot back.?
now those are serious brakes
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yeah but the rears doesn't fit on our cars.. they are smaller in diameter i thought..+they are also 2 piston calipers so its not a improvement on our cars..

just the fronts are worthwhile and cheap against the other brands.


on a side note, did anybody knew that the brakes used on the new x6M are 395 front/6pot- and 385/4 pot back.?
now those are serious brakes
Yeah agreed ! And I think they will do the front setup for $1650 ish !

but I have been checking and these ones seem to be 338mm and BMW dont offer it for the E9x 335i, the stock 335i ones are bigger than 338mm....and ours are stock 345mm
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i thought that 335i brakes where 348mm but dont shoot me iff im wrong..

frits will answer it later for sure, he's flooded by work lately
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i thought that 335i brakes where 348mm but dont shoot me iff im wrong..
Yeah the the stock 335i (I think it is 348mm) are larger than our 345mm stock ones !

But I think BMW havent released their Performance Brakes for the 335i yet, I think

Man, I had a serious NEAR incident on the motorway with my temporary E46 M3 on Saturday........ Thank God !

Enough is Enough

Now I need some SERIOUS stoppers !
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Yeah, the disk size is slightly smaller than the stock M5 disks, and they are thinner too. But the difference in thickness is only caused by the gap between the 2 parts that's smaller.

BMW doesn't offer the brakes for the 335i, but they DO fit. It's a direct swap, without adaptations. And trust me, these brakes are MUCH better than the stock M5 or 335i brakes.

The front Performance brakes have huge brake pads, the rears have rather small pads, smaller than the stock M5 rear pads. Apart from that, the calliper is mounted directly to the car, there is no bracket. So there's no bracket to adapt, to make them fit the M5.



Not sure if everybody got this right: to fit the Performance brakes on an M5, you need special brackets, which cannot be bought from BMW. I had a few of those machined, and those were pretty expensive. They were 130 euros for a set. If there is enough interest, I'll have another batch machined...
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Yeah, the disk size is slightly smaller than the stock M5 disks, and they are thinner too. But the difference in thickness is only caused by the gap between the 2 parts that's smaller.

BMW doesn't offer the brakes for the 335i, but they DO fit. It's a direct swap, without adaptations. And trust me, these brakes are MUCH better than the stock M5 or 335i brakes.

The front Performance brakes have huge brake pads, the rears have rather small pads, smaller than the stock M5 rear pads. Apart from that, the calliper is mounted directly to the car, there is no bracket. So there's no bracket to adapt, to make them fit the M5.



Not sure if everybody got this right: to fit the Performance brakes on an M5, you need special brackets, which cannot be bought from BMW. I had a few of those machined, and those were pretty expensive. They were 130 euros for a set. If there is enough interest, I'll have another batch machined...
Thanks Frits !

I am definitely going to pop by your place when I am in mainland Europe ! Make sure all your M5 mates are there too please !
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Yeah, the disk size is slightly smaller than the stock M5 disks, and they are thinner too. But the difference in thickness is only caused by the gap between the 2 parts that's smaller.

BMW doesn't offer the brakes for the 335i, but they DO fit. It's a direct swap, without adaptations. And trust me, these brakes are MUCH better than the stock M5 or 335i brakes.

The front Performance brakes have huge brake pads, the rears have rather small pads, smaller than the stock M5 rear pads. Apart from that, the calliper is mounted directly to the car, there is no bracket. So there's no bracket to adapt, to make them fit the M5.



Not sure if everybody got this right: to fit the Performance brakes on an M5, you need special brackets, which cannot be bought from BMW. I had a few of those machined, and those were pretty expensive. They were 130 euros for a set. If there is enough interest, I'll have another batch machined...
so if i'm reading this correctly - 1650 from BMW + ~130 euros = epic BMW factory brakes + brackets - can't beat that
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In Belgium, these brakes are 1401 Euros incl tax. Add the brackets to that, and it's indeed the best possible price for a brake set with 6 piston callipers (which are manufactured by Brembo by the way).

And before anyone asks, they are only available in that color as a set. You can get the callipers in black too, but not as a set with disks and pads. If you take all these parts separately, it gets pretty expensive.
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Frits - Do you have them on the rears?

What is weight distribution like? I understand that Stoptech's have perfect distribution similar to factory set up when using Stoptech Front BBK and rear OEM's.

Very Very interested in this cheap upgrade over replacement of OEM discs and pads.

I understand that SpeedReligion in the UK do fit these to other cars but not sure if any M5 owners have availed.

I know Zarnd hinted at the same concern I have... these are basically for 1 series but also available for 3 series. Our cars are significantly heavier than either a 1 or 3 series.
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