ESS VT550/570 VS. CA RK550 Superchargers - BMW M5 Forum and M6 Forums

Go Back   BMW M5 Forum and M6 Forums > BMW M5, M5 Touring, M6 and Z8 Forums > E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion

E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion 1998-2003 Advertiser's Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 11th April 2009, 01:01   #1
alquazi
Member, P500 Sport, DSC On (>700)
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Dubai

Garage: 2000 M5 Alpine White

Sales Feedback: (0)

Thanks: 172
Thanked 47 Times in 37 Posts
ESS VT550/570 VS. CA RK550 Superchargers

Ok guys we need detailed feedback on this. Which one would you pick, and WHY???

CA: CA rk550 E39 M5 Supercharger Conversion

ESS Tuning - BMW Supercharger Kits
__________________
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
'00 BMW ///M5 Alpine White

Mods
Evolve stage 3 tune
Schrick cams
Hamann Headers (High temperature coated inside and out)
Custom made exhaust (cat delet)
KW Coilovers V3
WP Pro BBK (360 mm rotors, 8 pot calipers front, 6 pot calipers rear)
alquazi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th April 2009, 06:37   #2
rneedham1979
Banned
 
rneedham1979's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Norfolk virginia

Garage: 2005 4.8IS, 2000 STOCK M5

Sales Feedback: (2)

Thanks: 219
Thanked 155 Times in 111 Posts
I would go ESS. The CA product looks like crap to me. They use common metal, zip ties to hold the oil cooler in place and the a dryer hose router under the car to transfer boost. I just do not like the quality of the kit. The ESS kit looks top notch.

Buy one already!

Ryan
rneedham1979 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th April 2009, 07:03   #3
firebird400
m5board.comoholic (>1000 posts)
 
firebird400's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Rumson, NJ

Garage: Sold&missed - 2001 M5

Sales Feedback: (5)

Thanks: 96
Thanked 207 Times in 168 Posts
I agree I think the ESS kit looks cleaner, closer to OEM appearance. What I also like about the ESS kit is that it seems to do more with less and for less - which tells me it is better put together.
__________________
2001 ///M5 - SOLD
Eisenmann Sport | Supersprint headers | SuperSprint X-pipe | Ground Control | Stoptech ST-40 front brakes | Powerchip | Rogue 280mm clutch | JB Racing lightweight flywheel | Rogue short shift | Dinan rear Swaybar | OEM 9.5" all around with Star Specs | Cosmo Racing CAI | Opened brake ducts

Last edited by firebird400; 11th April 2009 at 07:03.
firebird400 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th April 2009, 18:49   #4
Blue Thunder
m5board.comoholic (>1000 posts)
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Reykjavik, Iceland

Garage: 1999 M5 Avus Blue Metallic

Sales Feedback: (0)

Thanks: 23
Thanked 276 Times in 143 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by rneedham1979 View Post
I would go ESS. The CA product looks like crap to me. They use common metal, zip ties to hold the oil cooler in place and the a dryer hose router under the car to transfer boost. I just do not like the quality of the kit. The ESS kit looks top notch.

Buy one already!

Ryan

You sure about this?
__________________
1999 M5 Avus Blau Metallic
Twin Rotrex superchargers, Front mount intercooler, Steel sleeved block, Forged CP pistons, 10.5:1 compression, SS Headers, SS race cats, TUBI Rumore,
UUC 11" V12 cerametallic clutch + flywheel, UUC EVO3 SSK w/DSSR, Brembo GT4 brakes front/back, KWv3's, Angel Eyes + Angelibrights, Celis
19" Hamann PG2īs, Strongstrut front Strut Brace, BMW fire extinguisher, Phatbox MP3 player, CF interior trim, Voltphreaks battery
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2417213/1

1989 E30 M3 White - track toy
S50B32 with a supercharger - 500+ hp, 1300kg rocket for the Ring

Last edited by Blue Thunder; 11th April 2009 at 18:54.
Blue Thunder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th April 2009, 23:44   #5
rneedham1979
Banned
 
rneedham1979's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Norfolk virginia

Garage: 2005 4.8IS, 2000 STOCK M5

Sales Feedback: (2)

Thanks: 219
Thanked 155 Times in 111 Posts
I am going off the picture. The metal bracket under the car is rusted so.. yes it is common metal, meaning not stainless, aluminum etc. And in every picture the oil cooler is hanging by zip ties and yes the long plastic hose that runs from the air filter to the blower is a horribly cheap idea. So... yes! I am sure about this. If you compare the two pictures you will see a vast difference in quality and design.. Good day!

Ryan
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Thunder View Post
You sure about this?
rneedham1979 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th April 2009, 00:14   #6
alquazi
Member, P500 Sport, DSC On (>700)
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Dubai

Garage: 2000 M5 Alpine White

Sales Feedback: (0)

Thanks: 172
Thanked 47 Times in 37 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by rneedham1979 View Post
I am going off the picture. The metal bracket under the car is rusted so.. yes it is common metal, meaning not stainless, aluminum etc. And in every picture the oil cooler is hanging by zip ties and yes the long plastic hose that runs from the air filter to the blower is a horribly cheap idea. So... yes! I am sure about this. If you compare the two pictures you will see a vast difference in quality and design.. Good day!

Ryan

+1.
But it seems like the ESS SC has no extra oil cooler, no IC, and no CNC MACHINED MANIFOLD PLATES
alquazi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th April 2009, 01:59   #7
Blockdoc
m5board.comoholic (>1000 posts)
 
Blockdoc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Santa Barbara, CA

Garage: 2003 Sterling Gray M5

Sales Feedback: (1)

Thanks: 563
Thanked 326 Times in 186 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by alquazi View Post
+1.
But it seems like the ESS SC has no extra oil cooler, no IC, and no CNC MACHINED MANIFOLD PLATES
Keep in mind also, that the ESS kit is ONLY running 5.5 psi. That's pretty low boost for a pretty good amount of return on the power.

Bri
__________________
2003 Sterling Grey M5
ESS kit #1 with RK AUTOWERKS Upgrade! (RK/EVO software, Injectors, Fuel Pump)
Dinan Free Flow Exhaust, Dinan Rear Sway Bar
Super Sprint Headers
Rogue Octane SSK and WSR
CNS Racing clutch and flywheel
DICE Ipod connectivity
Bimmian Black Kidney Grilles
AngeliBright V3 6000k LED Upgrade, HID Fogs
Ultimate Pedals
BSW Stage 1 speaker upgrade/BSW Subwoofer
Rear Wheels Up Front (275s all around)
Aquamist HFS3/Howerton Engineering Tank (pre/post SC nozzles)
RK Autowerks CNC Plenum Plates
Blockdoc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th April 2009, 03:11   #8
mfizzlenyc
M5 Guru (>2000 posts)
 
mfizzlenyc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: AMERICA

Garage: 2000 m5 silverstone

Sales Feedback: (2)

Thanks: 661
Thanked 212 Times in 181 Posts
Just got some stoptechs so I can brake sooner now Im ready for some FI
__________________
2013 Subaru wrx Cobb tuned Daily beater

2009 135 "Worlds First Frozen 1ER" ESS Tuned stage 2


RIP MFIZZLENYCMOBILE - 12/5/2012 2000 Silverstone M5 extended Leather
213,500 miles !!!!!
Evolve Stage 3 Tune
BBS LMs 19s
Michelin Pilot Super Sports ,StopTech BBK,Dinan Headers, CF Plenum cover with clear windows, Dinan CF -CAI,Dinan Air Mass Meters ,Dinan light weight flywheel,Dinan stage 3 suspension ,Dinan 3.45 Diff,Dinan Mufflers,SS race cats ,SS x pipe,Rogue SSK , Euro Headlights -ibright v3,MRTM Pedal set, updated steering wheel ,16:9 nav ,Active Auto brake ducts
mfizzlenyc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th April 2009, 09:47   #9
Master Yoda
Junior Member, warming up (<31 posts)
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: England

Garage: 2008 E60 M5 SC White

Sales Feedback: (0)

Thanks: 0
Thanked 44 Times in 11 Posts
Hi All

I see what you mean, by looking at the pictures and i guess its my fault! because i have never made any pictures of the final kit..
So whats on the pictures are what the test car had fitted during development! sorry about that...

All parts in the kit comes coated black.. and with black silicone!
We dont sell rusty plates .. However its true that our SC bracket isnt made from 7075alu like all the other parts! And its not that we didnt want too use alu, but by calculating the amount of stress on the bracket i ment it wasnt safe.. see the small amount of stress on the metal bracket in the pic.
http://rumatuning.co.uk/publicdownloads/?file=2&sort=1


As for the oilcooler.. Sorry about that too... But at the time i was playing around with the amount of cooling needed, to keep the SC oil on a 80degree celcius level.. And because the SC sits down low, it gets alot of cooling from the air, so the oilcooler fitted is acctualy too big.. But by turning it around it will only flow in the top of the oilcooler and then the temp. were perfect... Plus with an extra bracket I can turn it around for max. cooling if a customer would need it.. so both options are there without any big changes...
http://rumatuning.co.uk/publicdownloads/?file=7&sort=1

When im back home again i will make some pictures of the out of the box kit, so you can see the coating..

Best regards and drive you M's safe..
Ruben
Master Yoda is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Master Yoda For This Useful Post:
M5CCIE (15th April 2009), wilsodh (12th April 2009)
Old 12th April 2009, 13:26   #10
herrubermensch
M5 Expert (>4000)
 
herrubermensch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: New York
Age: 47

Garage: LeMans Blue 2001 BMW M5 with black and blue extended leather and brushed aluminum trim

Sales Feedback: (4)

Thanks: 3,450
Thanked 2,060 Times in 1,106 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by alquazi View Post
+1.
But it seems like the ESS SC has no extra oil cooler, no IC, and no CNC MACHINED MANIFOLD PLATES
You can purchase the plenum plates from CA separately. Pricey, but probably worth it.
__________________
The Beast
2001 E39 M5 LeMans Blue with Black/Blue Sport Interior and Titanium Trim with some great mods and a blown, balanced and blueprinted S62
herrubermensch is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Opinions on certain superchargers twinturbovenom E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion 39 22nd October 2006 21:27
Aftermarket Superchargers milazotes GTBoard.com: General Sportscars 1 10th July 2003 20:50
Koenig superchargers Angel E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion 4 31st January 2002 18:50
Superchargers are available! Angel E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion 7 22nd January 2002 01:56
Any M3 Superchargers out? M5Laser E90 M3 Sedan, E92 M3 Coupe, E93 M3 Convertible, E46 M3 and E36 M3, Z4 M and Z4 M Coupe 0 23rd November 2001 05:31

Loading...

All times are GMT +2. The time now is 09:47.



Everything Copyright 2000-2008. Do not use ANYTHING from this site without written permission. All images, graphics, sound files, video files and text appearing on this web site are the exclusive property of m5board.com and are protected under international copyright laws. All images, graphics, sound files, video files and text on this site are for on-screen and on-site viewing and listening only. No part of this web site may be reproduced, copied, saved, stored, manipulated, or used in any form for personal or commercial purposes without the prior written permission of m5board.com. Use of any image or graphic as the basis for another photographic concept or illustration is a violation of the copyright. Any copyright infringement will be prosecuted to the full extent of federal and international copyright laws. M5board.com is an enthusiast board and we don't condone any dangerous activity. Our airfield events are completely safe based on years of experience, we conduct them during clear visibility with mature participants that have several years of experience with high-performance automobiles, large unobstructed run-off zones on sealed off private former military airbases and we clearly mark the braking zones. If inexperienced with high speed driving we do not recommend organizing your own event but attending a high-performance driving school. The use of the term "BMW" on this site is for reference only, and does not imply any connection between m5board.com and BMW AG or BMW North America.