this is pretty damn amusing... lol.... when a little speed bump gets in the way, fvck it... tear up the whole road instead of going over it slowly... wow!!!!
thats what i am trying to figure out. even if the motor was all torn apart, an experienced bmw tech familiar with the s62 could easily put it back together.
I was mostly just messing sround with you guys. But I will say there is always more than one solution to a problem. To say I am SOL to change the seals without putting it all back together, is just not right.
We researched and made a bunch of phone calls. It seems that we MIGHT be able to do it without any of the special tools, but it would be risky and probably wouldn't work.
So... we are investing in all the special tools (clos to $1K) with the exception of the GT1. We'll do my car right, and hope we get some more s62 and Vanos work out of it.
So yes, the car is sitting in the corner, but waiting for tools, not an engine.
I do appreciate the help, here, just not the SOL.
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REKIII you dont need a new engine for sure, only thing you need is a tool to set the vanos in the right position.
the tool itself doesn't cost allot so dont worry for now.
i included a picture with a vanos setting tool on there.
slide member FRITS a pm. he have worked with this tool and can explain "the how to use" a bit better then me.
sorry man but i only speak the truth. next time take the car to someone who is qualified to work on an s62 and you wont have these problems. your mechanic shouldn't have taken the engine apart if he dosent know what he's doing. it is common knowledge that the vanos system requires strict procedures and special tools to be dissasembled. i guess this will be a lesson learned.
Honestly, ask your local BMW dealer how much it would cost to rent the special tools. There are a few threads here which list the part numbers, a quick search should dig them up. I know phillym5 got the tools lent to him for free. Even if you were to buy them I think a grand seems a little steep.
You need more than just the fitting to run air pressure through the oil lines I believe. Most of the special tools required are nothing more than little rods that hold the cams/crank in the required positions to remove the VANOS banks; the air pressure allows you to do this by hand.
So, I'm supposed to trailer the car to a shop that has supposed experience on the s62 because the shop I took it to, took it all apart to replace the valve cover gaskets, then noticed the vanos seals leaking?
Then they want to buy all the special tools to do the job right and that is wrong?
How are any shops supposed to become good at working on these things if the only 'right' thing to do is to take it somewhere that has already done it?
My car is sitting for the winter, I'm not using it. The exhaust is off, the trans it out getting refreshed and a new clutch is being put in. There are a whole bunch of seals and whatnot including the valvecover gaskets, so now since the car is all torn down, I'm supposed to have them put it all back together to have it trailers to another shop.
Don't take it to another shop, but be prepared to learn along with your mechanic. People will tell you the S62 is special, how you need all these special things to take apart the VANOS. How when putting it back together everything must be just right so the timing is just right. That's all true, but it's entirely possible for you to do.
Remember, in all its glory the S62 is still just an engine. Sure, procedures to put it all back together and get it buttoned up are more complex but they are completely possible for someone who hasn't done it before. You just need the right tools and some ingenuity.
In the past two months there have been at least three threads going into detail on anything from a complete engine/VANOS rebuild to a broken chain guide. In every one of those cases a board member was able to successfully rebuild their VANOS and time it properly. Keep your mechanic if you know he's competent. Keep your head up because in the end your car will be better. Just get the proper tools (again, I'm not kidding about borrowing them from a dealer or a boardmember) and get to work. Get the TIS procedures, read them and you'll see that what your doing isn't rocket science it's just a little tricky. Read through the threads posted below to get an idea of what the procedures are you and your mechanic will be looking at. It can be done with patience and proper procedure (and all without a GT1). Good luck!
You are just replacing the seals, so honestly the work is less than most other procedures. You don't even need to disassemble much, all you need to do is get the VANOS banks raised up enough to allow you to replace those seals.
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