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Old 13th January 2009, 15:24   #1
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So Last Sunday I was driving back from the gym when at the light a 300 pulls up along side of me and wanted to race. Whatever I said and it turned green and we floored it. I killed him but half way threw he slowed because a county police was hiding. I looked back in the mirror and smiled because I crushed him. Then I noticed that the cop ran up on me and hit his lights now mind you that I never look at the speed when I racing only the tachometer so know when to shift. So he stops me and asked how fast I was going. I told him I didn't know then he tells me he clocked me at 65 in a 35 then takes my license and registration back to his car and runs its he comes back and handed my stuff back saying the only reason he’s not giving me a ticket is because I’m in the service and lets me go with a warning I was so scared that I had to turn the car off because I knew I was going to jail that night. The lesson from this story never race any body period unless you got radar built into your car.fficeffice" />
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Old 13th January 2009, 15:28   #2
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Even with radar they can still nail you with some bs ticket. We've had people get pulled over in some of our runs and our radars didnt even make a sound. "Reckless driving" is the most used BS ticket given when speed isn't measured.
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Old 13th January 2009, 15:29   #3
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Puh. Good to me a military. Congratulations.
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Wow, consider your lucky on that one!!!
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Old 13th January 2009, 15:35   #5
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Glad for you, my friend!
One of my close friends is a firefighter in Flushing, Queens.
He once did smth so stupid, he shoud've gotten at least 3 tickets for 3 different violations at once which combined were a good enough reason to handcuff him. As soon as the cop pulled him over, he said: Dude..., you better be a firefighter or in the military! Lucky for him, he was, so he got away with it =)
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So Last Sunday I was driving back from the gym when at the light a 300 pulls up along side of me and wanted to race. Whatever I said and it turned green and we floored it. I killed him but half way threw he slowed because a county police was hiding. I looked back in the mirror and smiled because I crushed him. Then I noticed that the cop ran up on me and hit his lights now mind you that I never look at the speed when I racing only the tachometer so know when to shift. So he stops me and asked how fast I was going. I told him I didn't know then he tells me he clocked me at 65 in a 35 then takes my license and registration back to his car and runs its he comes back and handed my stuff back saying the only reason he’s not giving me a ticket is because I’m in the service and lets me go with a warning I was so scared that I had to turn the car off because I knew I was going to jail that night. The lesson from this story never race any body period unless you got radar built into your car.fficeffice" />
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Revenue generation....

As so many others had stated - tickets are all about revenue generation for town. Has nothing to do with safety.

BTW - a few years back I had a friend who was a part time state trooper while going to school. We used to go skiing together and every time he simply floored it in his Grand Cherokee. We were usually cruising at 110-120 all the way from Boston to VT. Every time he got pulled over he just showed the ID and kept on driving. Usually literally just pulling out and flooring it again - pulling away from the cop! Even though I benefited from the experience (it was nice to get home early!), I must say it always felt a bit weird and awkward....
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Ticket writing rises in a slump, study finds

Steve Harrison, Charlotte Observer Comment on this story

The economy is in the toilet. So do yourself a favor and ease up on the accelerator.
That's the indirect message of a recent study by two economists, who found that when government revenues dry up, police write more speeding tickets. After analyzing 14 years of data in North Carolina, the pair found that for every 1 percent drop in government revenue, the number of traffic tickets issued per capita increases by 30 percent the following year.
"It's significant," said University of Arkansas-Little Rock economics professor Gary A. Wagner, who co-wrote Red Ink in the Rearview Mirror: Local Fiscal Conditions and the Issuance of Traffic Tickets. "If there was no revenue for issuing tickets, I wouldn't expect the unemployment rate and revenue to be related."
The study, which analyzed data from 1989 to 2003, found the fewest number of tickets issued in North Carolina was in 2000, after nearly a decade of economic growth. Roughly 645,000 tickets were written that year. The highest number of tickets came two years later, when governments were trying to recover from the post-9/11 recession, and issued roughly 768,000.
Wagner said the study reinforced an accepted theory among economists: Incentives matter.
"If local governments are somehow involved in the revenue that gets generated, there's an incentive to get more revenue," Wagner said.
For some, the idea of government relying on lead-footed drivers to balance the budget isn't new. Drivers warn one another about small-town speed traps, and it's widely assumed that tickets are being written with more than public safety in mind.
Wagner said there are numerous anecdotes nationwide of such practices, such as the mayor of Nashville, Tenn., proposing two years ago a 33 percent increase in ticket revenue in his budget.
Wagner's co-author, Thomas Garrett, is an assistant vice president at the St. Louis Federal Reserve. North Carolina was chosen as a case study simply because the state had good data. During the study period, the state issued 11 tickets for every 100 residents. Dare County had the highest rate, at 29 per 100. Caldwell County was the lowest, at 6 per 100.

While I was looking for the above story, I stumbled on the following. All I can say is wow!

Virginia Introduces $3550 Speeding Ticket
Virginia legislator introduces new speeding ticket tax that boosts penalties beyond $3550, driving business to his traffic law firm.

Virginia motorists convicted of minor traffic violations will face a new, multi-year tax beginning July 1. Led by state Delegate David B. Albo (R-Springfield), lawmakers slipped a driver responsibility tax into a larger transportation funding bill signed by Governor Tim Kaine (D) in April. Albo, a senior partner in the Albo & Oblon, LLP traffic law firm, can expect to see a significant increase in business as motorists seek to protect their wallet from traffic tickets that come with assessments of up to $3000 in addition to an annual point tax that tops out at $700 a year for as long as the points remain.

"The purpose of the civil remedial fees imposed in this section is to generate revenue," the new law states. (Virginia Code 46.2-206.1)

Driving as little as 15 MPH over the limit on an interstate highway now brings six license demerit points, a fine of up to $2500, up to one year in jail, and a new mandatory $1050 tax. The law also imposes an additional annual fee of up to $100 if a prior conviction leaves the motorist with a balance of eight demerit points, plus $75 for each additional point (up to $700 a year). The conviction in this example remains on the record for five years.

Other six-point convictions include "failing to give a proper signal," "passing a school bus" or "driving with an obstructed view." The same $1050 assessment applies, but the conviction remains on the record for eleven years.

Although the amount of the tax can add up quickly, the law forbids judges from reducing or suspending it in any way. The tax applies only to Virginia residents, so that out-of-state motorists only need to pay the regular ticket amount. Michigan, New Jersey, New York and Texas also impose a somewhat more modest driver responsibility tax which they apply to out-of-state residents.

The Virginia Supreme Court provides a full explanation of the new penalties for each traffic infraction in the 34k PDF file at the source link below. Update: View which legislators support a repeal, link to online petition.

Source: Civil Remedial Fees (Executive Secretary, Virginia Supreme Court, 6/21/2007)

I guess the moral of the story; if issued a citation, always obtain legal counsel.

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Wow. I'm just dumbfounded - I can't believe the general theme of this thread is how the economy sucks, therefore, tickets are issued to generate revenue for the ailing city that the violation occurred in?!?

How has nobody chimed in about how street racing is juvenile, stupid, and dangerous?

The fact that you admit to nearly doubling the speed limit in what I assume is the middle of town, get stopped for 65+ in a 35, then at some point use your military status to 'sway' the cop's decision not to tow your **** or take you to jail blows my mind. And your bottom line of not street racing unless you know the street is void of cops...sounds like you belong back in a Honda. Reminds me of the sixteen year old kid being given a sports car for his birthday.

Grow up.
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wow... thats a little harsh i suppose. well no worries here in the CHI, it's winter. no highway pulls for me anytime soon
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Virginia Introduces $3550 Speeding Ticket
Virginia legislator introduces new speeding ticket tax that boosts penalties beyond $3550, driving business to his traffic law firm.

Virginia motorists convicted of minor traffic violations will face a new, multi-year tax beginning July 1. Led by state Delegate David B. Albo (R-Springfield), lawmakers slipped a driver responsibility tax into a larger transportation funding bill signed by Governor Tim Kaine (D) in April. Albo, a senior partner in the Albo & Oblon, LLP traffic law firm, can expect to see a significant increase in business as motorists seek to protect their wallet from traffic tickets that come with assessments of up to $3000 in addition to an annual point tax that tops out at $700 a year for as long as the points remain.

"The purpose of the civil remedial fees imposed in this section is to generate revenue," the new law states. (Virginia Code 46.2-206.1)

Driving as little as 15 MPH over the limit on an interstate highway now brings six license demerit points, a fine of up to $2500, up to one year in jail, and a new mandatory $1050 tax. The law also imposes an additional annual fee of up to $100 if a prior conviction leaves the motorist with a balance of eight demerit points, plus $75 for each additional point (up to $700 a year). The conviction in this example remains on the record for five years.

Other six-point convictions include "failing to give a proper signal," "passing a school bus" or "driving with an obstructed view." The same $1050 assessment applies, but the conviction remains on the record for eleven years.

Although the amount of the tax can add up quickly, the law forbids judges from reducing or suspending it in any way. The tax applies only to Virginia residents, so that out-of-state motorists only need to pay the regular ticket amount. Michigan, New Jersey, New York and Texas also impose a somewhat more modest driver responsibility tax which they apply to out-of-state residents.

The Virginia Supreme Court provides a full explanation of the new penalties for each traffic infraction in the 34k PDF file at the source link below. Update: View which legislators support a repeal, link to online petition.


Sounds like a good reason not to live in Virginia.
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