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Old 19th January 2002, 04:35   #11
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sounds like they just made up some explaination for you... they probably couldn't figure out what was wrong with it, and just took you for a fool and gave you whatever they could think up.. at least the warranty covered it....
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Old 19th January 2002, 05:15   #12
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Parker,

Don't worry, I don't use Classic (I use Moritz.), but it sounded like the excuse I heard from them (Moritz) when I wore out my rear tires of my 540 at 6K miles!! Initially, they told me it was the massive torque of the car and my aggressive driving!!!! This was on a car that I had never spun the tires nor turned the DSC off!! I was a pretty darn conservative driver in that car looking back on it. Finally, they found a rear camber problem which was fixed under warranty, but refused to pay for the new tires!! Funny, how I learned to drive the car more aggressively, but the 2nd set of tires lasted 20K miles!! (They really had a lot of tread left, but I was replacing the fronts, so I went ahead and did the rears.

Oh, those BMW excuses!!

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Old 19th January 2002, 06:45   #13
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BMWis fixing this because it is their problem. I highly doubt that the driveshaft itself is damaged. Have they ever mentioned a part called a guibo by chance?
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Old 19th January 2002, 06:56   #14
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The guibo was completely destroyed as well. It was also replaced.
The entire driveshaft WAS replaced. I am very positive of this. They showed me the car while it was up on the lift. I saw the damage.

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Old 19th January 2002, 06:59   #15
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WOW!!!!
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Old 19th January 2002, 08:08   #16
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I'll just second the notion that this was the lamest, most cockamamie excuse I've ever heard. I will grant you that BMW's perform well in part because they ARE well engineered, which means components are "big enough" but not "too big". However, to claim that the design of a drive shaft is so finely tuned as to be sensitive to brand of tire? Give me a break. It just ain't so. As in NFW! Your dealer should be hog-tied, keel-hauled, roasted alive and lambasted for trying to pull thw wool over your eyes. Shame on them.
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Absolutely rediculous!

What happened to BMW's excuse that the clutch is manufactured to be the 'weak link" in the drive train to protect the other components??? I recall this excuse being used previously to explain clutch failure.

Next they'll say the drive shaft is the weak link to protect the clutch.

Interestingly, however, when I ordered a Ford F250 with the 460 efi engine (first year efi was introduced in that engine), production was delayed because the drive shaft had to be reinforced. The efi engine had so much more torque than the carburetor version of the 460 that the drive shafts twisted.
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On one hand, yes, it's a stupid explanation.

However...

The M5 is not a dragstrip weapon. It's far too heavy. And weight is hard on parts.

If you go out trying to match those sub-5-second 0-60 times regularly, you should count on some occasional parts breakage.
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You should write a letter to BMW....we shouldn't have to put up with nonsense like this. You're dealers statement is false, so are the stupid comments about the cupholders!

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Re: Killed my driveshaft

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They said the reason that the driveshaft broke was because of my tires. ....
What a load of crap! If that were the case, ask them to show you in the owner's manual for a warning against using other than OEM tires. After all, given the potential for significant drivetrain damage, I'm sure it would be listed, just like the specifications for engine oil.......Sheesh.....
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