Go Back   The Unofficial BMW M5 Messageboard (m5board.com) > BMW M5, M5 Touring, M6 and Z8 Forums > E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion

E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion 1998-2003 Advertiser's Forum

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 25th November 2001, 17:27   #1
Ilya Zverev
Member, Sport: On DSC: On (>100 posts)
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Boston, MA, USA

Garage:

Sales Feedback: (0)

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Dinan wheels anyone - Impressions

Playing with an idea of Dinan wheels. Thay seem to be the lightest on the market. 17-18 lb compared to 26 for stock is a huge improvement. Combined with European floating rotors - will give a tremendous reduction in unsprung weight.

Conserns: Forged aluminum - how strong is it. Are these wheels stronger then OEM. Boston "war zone" roads are not kind to any rims... But with better handling I'll autocross between putholes better

I know Mark had these wheels for a while, is 285 on the rear and 275 front good way to go or is it easier to stick with 275 rear, 265 front without rolling more fenders and putting spacers and possibly saving some weight?

Thank you
Ilya
Ilya Zverev is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Add this post to your Facebook Profile Add this post to MySpaceStumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 25th November 2001, 18:23   #2
dave
Member, Sport: On DSC: On (>100 posts)
 
dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: saratoga, CA

Garage: 2005 Alpine White 645i Coupe

Sales Feedback: (0)

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
My two cents......... they're way overpriced and ugly!
__________________
'02 Kirkham Cobra/Shelby Aluminum 427
'05 645i Coupe/Manual Transmission
dave is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Add this post to your Facebook Profile Add this post to MySpaceStumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 25th November 2001, 19:06   #3
tfung
Moderator
 
tfung's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Hong Kong
Age: 30

Garage: 1999 Carbon Black M5, 2001 Jet Black M5

Sales Feedback: (0)

Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to tfung Send a message via AIM to tfung
BostonRocket considered getting them, but after talking to the Dinan guy at BMW Gallery, he was told that some other guy got the rims, but bent 3 of them in the same day on Boston roads! Well, I personally think it's the way you drive, and if you're careful, the chances of bending them aren't that high.. but you would never know... I personally would go for 19" rims if I were to change anything...
__________________
US Spec 2001 E39 M5 - LHD
AC Schnitzer
DFC suspension, anti-sway bars, pedals
front splitters, rear wing w/ carbon fiber

Dinan
CAI, MAFS, Throttle bodies, Velocity Stacks,
Stage 2 aluminum flywheel, front + rear strut bars,
3.45 differential

Others
Custom G-power Exhaust, Autosolutions short shifter
Supersprint Headers, Racing Cats, X-pipe
SPEC stage 3 clutch, Powerchip ECU, Schrick Cams
OZ Racing Superleggera III f19x8.5 r19x10.5, Brembo brakes
Evosport Power Pullies, Rouge transmission mounts, Plasma ignition coils
Euro interior conversion, M-technic grill with brake ducts, turbo timer
CA Automative custom carbon fiber hood


Euro Spec 1999 E39 M5 - RHD
ACS Sports Suspension, anti-sway bars, Type III Racing f19x8.5 r19x9.5


2007 Mercedes E63
2007 Corvette Z06
2008 Nissan GTR
tfung is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Add this post to your Facebook Profile Add this post to MySpaceStumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 25th November 2001, 19:37   #4
stever
m5board.comoholic (>1000 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2000

Garage:

Sales Feedback: (0)

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
i like mine a lot now that i've gotten used to the looks

they're strong and light and expensive -- if the roads are that bad you may want to consider some of the light weight 2 and 3 piece wheels -- there are some that are only a pound heavier than the Dinans and if you bend it you don't have to replace the whole thing

i've got 275/285 on 9/9.5 per Dinan's recommendation, rolling the rear fender lip is not a big deal (some cars need it even with 275's) and i don't notice the steering limiter; but with the experience of people on the board fitting 275's on 9.5 in front i'd put 275's on 9.5's all round with the 5mm spacer on the front in order to rotate tires front/rear

if you're worried about potholes, 19's are not the way to go
stever is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Add this post to your Facebook Profile Add this post to MySpaceStumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 25th November 2001, 22:37   #5
BostonRocket
M5 Expert (>4000)
 
BostonRocket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Boston, MA

Garage: 2009 Basalt Black Porsche 997 Turbo

Sales Feedback: (0)

Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
i did want the Dinan rims, as TFung said, but I changed my mind after the Dinan tech told me of people bending them really easily..

Anyone experience this?

'Rocket
BostonRocket is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Add this post to your Facebook Profile Add this post to MySpaceStumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 26th November 2001, 03:26   #6
PaulMarin
Moderator
 
PaulMarin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Bay Area, CA.

Garage: 2001 M5 Titanium silver/ black sport

Sales Feedback: (0)

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
The Dinan wheels are cool, I like mine. Light and strong. I didn't like their looks at first but after seeing SteveR's wheels a couple of times I was clearly jealous of his wheels so I got them. I had mine recoated so they are all one finish, very close to the M5 OEM finish. The Dinans come with the outter part of the rim polished and the spokes with a matt finish. I also have BMW Roundels on the centers rather than the Dinan logos, also no spacers needed. I could not find any other one piece wheel I liked better. My preference would be a clean, light, strong, one piece, radially symetrical, 10 spoke wheel with a lot of air in between the spokes and a powdercoat finish that looks like the OEM color. 18" is the only size I would want, 9"or 9 1/2" in front and 9 1/2" or 10" in the rear. The Dinans, 9'' front and 9 1/2" rear, came pretty close to what I wanted.
__________________
2001M5 Titanium/black
PaulMarin is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Add this post to your Facebook Profile Add this post to MySpaceStumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 26th November 2001, 04:59   #7
MarkM5Lauderdale
m5board.comoholic (>1000 posts)
 
MarkM5Lauderdale's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida, U.S.
Age: 46

Garage: 2002 Mini Cooper S

Sales Feedback: (0)

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Nothing bent yet. (knock knock) That includes a trip through the Boston area as well, (Oktoberfest) and fighting the city's latest project "brick sidewalks" down here. Just have to pay attention to where your driving.
Now I have bent the rims on our X5. (stock with chrome finish) Not sure yet where we managed to do that.
__________________
Mark
2003 X5 4.4 Sport
2002 Mini Cooper S

odom6567@belsouth.net
Schroth Harnesses
Foreign Affairs Motorsports
MarkM5Lauderdale is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Add this post to your Facebook Profile Add this post to MySpaceStumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 26th November 2001, 06:45   #8
Dallas Spikes
Addicted Member (>300 posts)
 
Dallas Spikes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Dallas, TX, USA
Age: 42

Garage: 2002 Carbon Black M5

Sales Feedback: (0)

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
OK, educate me.

I can't imagine that saving about 35-40lbs. total in wheel weight would make that much difference on this car. So, there must be something to this "unsprung weight". Could someone explain why "unsprung" weight is any different than "sprung" weight when it comes to performance?

Thanks,

Chris

Last edited by Dallas Spikes; 27th November 2001 at 03:34.
Dallas Spikes is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Add this post to your Facebook Profile Add this post to MySpaceStumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 26th November 2001, 20:05   #9
dwasifar
Senior Member (>500)
 
dwasifar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Lake Villa IL USA

Garage: 2000 Dinan M5 Carbon

Sales Feedback: (0)

Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
I've always wondered whether the weight of the springs themselves was considered "sprung" or "unsprung."
dwasifar is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Add this post to your Facebook Profile Add this post to MySpaceStumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 26th November 2001, 22:18   #10
PhilSeastrand
Moderator
 
PhilSeastrand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Roseville, CA, USA
Age: 53

Garage: 2001 M5 Silverstone/Silverstone

Sales Feedback: (0)

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via MSN to PhilSeastrand Send a message via Yahoo to PhilSeastrand
Let me take a stab at this....

The whole point of the suspension in a car is to keep the tire patch firmly on the pavement. Doing this as the road changes, the car weight shifts around, etc., is close to black magic to me. I don't know how they do it, but you can feel the difference when they do it right. Imagine what would happen as a tire rolled over a bump in the road if the suspension wasn't there. The tire would have to absorb all the energy of the bump and would likely leave the pavement and you would have no traction!

Unfortunately, the suspension can't do anything to correct the influence of unsprung weight. This must fall on the tire itself. Using my example from above, as the tire goes up the front slope of the bump, the sidewalls must compress to absorb the energy of the unsprung weight (the suspension is doing to this for the rest of the car weight). And as the tire rolls down the backside of the bump, the sidewall must expand to keep the contact patch in contact with the road until the suspension can push the tire back down. The more weight that is not absorbed by the springs (thus, unsprung weight), the more work the sidewall has to do and vice-versa.

Another aspect of this that is specific to the wheel weight is rotational inertia. The heavier the wheel the harder it is to get it spinning. This will impact both your acceleration and braking.
__________________
Phil

2010 Toyota Prius
2004 Honda Pilot
PhilSeastrand is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Add this post to your Facebook Profile Add this post to MySpaceStumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How many of you guys, read GUSTAV's article on his DINAN visit/tour............ FAST 5 E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion 21 16th June 2008 18:40
ATTN: SUPER-BIG News.... Dinan improves & simplifies the Group Buy procedure....... FAST 5 M5 E39 Group Buy Forum and Sponsor Discussion and Offerings 38 17th February 2004 10:20
Adding MODS to your car and warranty being possibly affected................ FAST 5 E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion 1 6th November 2003 22:44
Dinan Lightweight Wheels (FOR SALE) - 5 wheels BeastPower For Sale or Wanted 2 5th June 2003 21:45

eXTReMe Tracker

All times are GMT +2. The time now is 00:43.


Everything Copyright 2000-2008. Do not use ANYTHING from this site without written permission. All images, graphics, sound files, video files and text appearing on this web site are the exclusive property of m5board.com and are protected under international copyright laws. All images, graphics, sound files, video files and text on this site are for on-screen and on-site viewing and listening only. No part of this web site may be reproduced, copied, saved, stored, manipulated, or used in any form for personal or commercial purposes without the prior written permission of m5board.com. Use of any image or graphic as the basis for another photographic concept or illustration is a violation of the copyright. Any copyright infringement will be prosecuted to the full extent of federal and international copyright laws. M5board.com is an enthusiast board and we don't condone any dangerous activity. Our airfield events are completely safe based on years of experience, we conduct them during clear visibility with mature participants that have several years of experience with high-performance automobiles, large unobstructed run-off zones on sealed off private former military airbases and we clearly mark the braking zones. If inexperienced with high speed driving we do not recommend organizing your own event but attending a high-performance driving school. The use of the term "BMW" on this site is for reference only, and does not imply any connection between m5board.com and BMW AG or BMW North America.
Page generated in 0.15187 seconds with 11 queries