lofstrom

I just wanted you guys to know, I havn't had time to read the article yet, but I noticed that it included DFC from ACS.

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Stefan
Ex-owner of '99 Imola Red Beast

Steve Beswick

Since many of us are considering these suspension changes, this sounds like an article of interest to many on the board.

I've never seen this magazine here in L.A. What's the specific name of it again? Do they have a website for us to access?

I suppose it would be illegal to scan it and put it on the board?

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SteveB
Titanium Silver Ext/Black Luxury Int
Cross-Drilled Rotors Front & Rear
Red Brembo's w/Hawk Street-Track Pads
Stainless Steel lines
ACS Pedals/ACS Short-Shift
SS X-Pipes with ACS Exhaust
SSRGT3 19"9 1/2"w/275-30F&285/30RS-03's
Blacked Kidney Grille
Silvervision Front & Side Turn Signals
M-Technic Grille w/Brake Ducts
K & N Filters
Valentine V1
RMS ECU Software

johann

The name of the magazine is Auto Motor & Sport.

kees

It's pretty *the* German car magazine...comparable with Car&Driver or similar in the USA. Problem for most American readers would be that it is printed in German...

Link to the contents page of the latest edition is here:
http://www.auto.t-online.de/AU/DE/de...te_startPos=02

Steve Beswick

Hi Keedsh,

Thanks, unfortunately I don't read German. I did access the website, but can't seem to access the actual article. So . . . what did it say? I know it's not that simple, but which one was the best?

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SteveB
Titanium Silver Ext/Black Luxury Int
Cross-Drilled Rotors Front & Rear
Red Brembo's w/Hawk Street-Track Pads
Stainless Steel lines
ACS Pedals/ACS Short-Shift
SS X-Pipes with ACS Exhaust
SSRGT3 19"9 1/2"w/275-30F&285/30RS-03's
Blacked Kidney Grille
Silvervision Front & Side Turn Signals
M-Technic Grille w/Brake Ducts
K & N Filters
Valentine V1
RMS ECU Software

tfung

there's no such thing as the "best" suspension.... Everyone has different driving styles, so it'll be different for each person...

Anyways, looks like the suspension test is under this title:
Sportfahrwerke im Vergleich zur Serie
could see the article online though, so I assume that you have to buy it.. anyone want to scan the article? I know it's in German, but it'll still be interesting....

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US Spec 2001 E39 M5 - LHD
AC Schnitzer
DFC suspension, anti-sway bars, pedals
front splitters, rear wing w/ carbon fiber

Dinan
CAI, MAFS, Throttle bodies, Velocity Stacks,
Stage 2 aluminum flywheel, front + rear strut bars,
3.45 differential

Others
Custom G-power Exhaust, Autosolutions short shifter
Supersprint Headers, Racing Cats, X-pipe
SPEC stage 3 clutch, Powerchip ECU, Schrick Cams
OZ Racing Superleggera III f19x8.5 r19x10.5, Brembo brakes
Evosport Power Pullies, Rouge transmission mounts, Plasma ignition coils
Euro interior conversion, M-technic grill with brake ducts, turbo timer
CA Automative custom carbon fiber hood


Euro Spec 1999 E39 M5 - RHD
ACS Sports Suspension, anti-sway bars, Type III Racing f19x8.5 r19x9.5


2007 Mercedes E63
2007 Corvette Z06
2008 Nissan GTR

kees

That's correct, you have to purchase the magazine to read the article...I'm sure Lofstrom should be able to provide an update on the gist of the article today.

I dropped by a local bookshop yesterday, but they only had the previous edition of this biweekly in their racks. I'll drop by again later today to see if it is in...scanning (and translation) should not be an issue.

johann

I dropped by two magazine shops and they said they will not get it until Tuesday.

kees

With a bit of luck I should be able to pick one up in the airport on Sunday morning...I'll try again at the local bookshop later...looked like an interesting magazine this time around with an Arden tuned X type and Wolf Mondeo as well...Wolf used to make some very cool Sierras & Escorts...

Mr Blitz

Guys here is a recap of that article in AMS, a very respectable German car mag.

They tested the ACS DFC and the KW variant III, which is not for sale yet. It is being introduced at the Essen Tuning Show at the end of November. Price for the ACS DFC is 7779 DEM, the KW variant III is at 4084 DEM, fitting not included !

The M5's were tested on the Nürburgring, the quickest M5 was the one with the ACS DFC suspension on board. They measured the Km/h through some sections of the Nürburgring, here are the numbers:

Quiddelbacher Höhe
M5 serie => 164,5
M5 with KW => 172,1
M5 with ACS DFC SPORT => 168,2
M5 with ACS DFC INTERMEDIATE => 175,4
M5 with ACS DFC RACE TRACK => 181,0

Schwedenkreuz
M5 serie => 167,7
M5 with KW => 169,8
M5 with ACS DFC SPORT => 170,7
M5 with ACS DFC INTERMEDIATE => 173,1
M5 with ACS DFC RACE TRACK => 184,9

Aremberg
M5 serie => 90,9
M5 with KW => 92,5
M5 with ACS DFC SPORT => 91,6
M5 with ACS DFC INTERMEDIATE => 93,6
M5 with ACS DFC RACE TRACK => 96,2

Wehrseifen
M5 serie => 101,3
M5 with KW => 114,2
M5 with ACS DFC SPORT => 112,3
M5 with ACS DFC INTERMEDIATE => 115,6
M5 with ACS DFC RACE TRACK => 114,3

Eiskurve
M5 serie => 89,2
M5 with KW => 98,3
M5 with ACS DFC SPORT => 98,8
M5 with ACS DFC INTERMEDIATE => 100,4
M5 with ACS DFC RACE TRACK => 100,1

Then they took the comfort in account !
M5 serie => good
M5 with KW => satisfying
M5 with ACS DFC SPORT => satisfying
M5 with ACS DFC INTERMEDIATE => satisfying
M5 with ACS DFC RACE TRACK => not so good
short bumps
M5 serie => very good
M5 with KW => satisfying
M5 with ACS DFC SPORT => satisfying
M5 with ACS DFC INTERMEDIATE => not so good
M5 with ACS DFC RACE TRACK => not so good
long bumps
M5 serie => good
M5 with KW => good
M5 with ACS DFC SPORT => not so good
M5 with ACS DFC INTERMEDIATE => satisfying
M5 with ACS DFC RACE TRACK => satifying

Taking everything into account.... here is the "final verdict"......

The M5 with the ACS DFC Suspension is unbeatable on the Ring when in "Race track" mode ! The OEM M5 suspension is sure and comfortable, but not really suited for the race track. The best compromise for "every day use" is the KW Variant III !!!

Mr Blitz