hmm.. I would imagine that the best compromise would be the DFC, since you change change it from sport more to race mode... seems to me the sports mode is about the same as the KW in terms of comfort...
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If the cars had standard brakes they would have struggled around the ring, which maybe why they did the measurements in sections using speed only, to take out the losses they would have experienced due to brake fade.
The Ring Taxi is an M5, but runs Pagid pads. I believe that does around 8m 30 around the ring.
Would have been interesting to see an DFC equipped M5, Nowack engine and Movit brakes go round the ring - should be able to come in close to 8 minutes I would have thought
Originally posted by blade If the cars had standard brakes they would have struggled around the ring, which maybe why they did the measurements in sections using speed only, to take out the losses they would have experienced due to brake fade.
The Ring Taxi is an M5, but runs Pagid pads. I believe that does around 8m 30 around the ring.
Would have been interesting to see an DFC equipped M5, Nowack engine and Movit brakes go round the ring - should be able to come in close to 8 minutes I would have thought
Doing one lap on Nordschleife with stock brakes without brake fade is no problem at all even two will work fine. So it should be perfectly possible to record lap times if you let the brakes cool off between fast laps.
Also the Ring taxi carries up two 3 passenger, imagine the extra load on the brakes, with stock pads they would have to change pads every on or second lap. That's the main reason why they use yellow pagid
They also have to have some security margin so even if they go fast they don't go 100%.
The Ring Taxi run laps similar to 8.45-8.30 but Sport Auto's time is 8.28 and BMW test drivers has lapped in 8.20.
Only based on average speed an M5 equipped with DFC should be able to do a lap in 8.13 if the average speed is 5km/h faster and less than 8 minutes if the average speed is 10km/h faster. Look at the difference in corner speed above and make your own conlcusion.
I bow down to your superior knowledge of the Ring, as I still haven't driven there. On normal short circuits, the M5 is just too heavy, so circuits that are hard on brakes usually see fade within a few laps.
As the Ring is so long and I had heard it was hard on brakes, I made the assumption that the standard brakes would struggle.
8.13 as an estimate sounds about right, and if it was the Nowack modified car, then close to 8 sounds possible to me...
Originally posted by blade I bow down to your superior knowledge of the Ring, as I still haven't driven there. On normal short circuits, the M5 is just too heavy, so circuits that are hard on brakes usually see fade within a few laps.
As the Ring is so long and I had heard it was hard on brakes, I made the assumption that the standard brakes would struggle.
8.13 as an estimate sounds about right, and if it was the Nowack modified car, then close to 8 sounds possible to me...
I definetly agree that the brakes fade on most shorter tracks after just a few laps. The Nordschleife is similar in length as several laps on such a track.
However, Nordschleife is a fast track and between twisty parts there are fast stretches where you cool down your brakes. If you just go one or two laps at a time and drive som km of track to cool down the brakes they usually works fine.
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