Figured out Nav Service Menu 2002 M5 - The Unofficial BMW M5 Messageboard (m5board.com)

2002m5BGM · 9th November 2001, 16:21

Here is the second service menu I found in my 2002 M5.

Go to the main MENU, Go to Settings. Now hold in the MENU button for several seconds and you are in.

This is where you see the service mode for the on board computer, Nav/graphics, GPS, Video Module (which does nothing), sensor check and Telematics.

Inside the GPS menu, you can display your speed as you go, but it is in m/sec. Very interesting stuff.

Bill

Steve Beswick · 9th November 2001, 18:05

Hey, does it give you a software version number?

Also, the video module menu. Would they add that unless they were expecting to add some sort of video playback? I wonder.

I've seen the topographic display in the new Toyota-based cars, and it's really cool. I wonder if BMW (or NavTech) intends to upgrade (BAD WORD on this board) their CD's?

2002m5BGM · 9th November 2001, 19:12

Yes - you get all kinds of software version numbers. I think the video module is only used in Europe.

Bill

tfung · 9th November 2001, 20:21

I imagine the video module is the TV module... I don't have it, so can't confirm.. anyone with the TV installation care to comment?

BrianC · 16th November 2001, 00:41

Mine is a Y2000 and I can activiate pretty much the same secondary menu by doing the same press+hold Set button.

The Video Module is referring to the TV. It allows you to specify PAL/NTSC/SECAM/etc stuffs. I have a VCR & a DVD Changer hooked up with the TV and so far I've left them on NTSC and it seems to work fine. I'll try to change the menu to PAL and see if my VCR or DVD will still run.

Richard in NC · 16th November 2001, 02:29

Brian,
I wouldn't try changing it. It may cause damage.
NTSC vs PAL refer to the base TV refresh rate. I do not know how LCD screens and DVD players act but in the old days, sending a frequency to a monitor that it couldn't handle could blow it.

Then again, if it has the setting and works in Europe than it must be able to handle it. If that is the case, it will just distort the display.

Steve Beswick · 18th November 2001, 18:29

Guys,

PAL is simply the European TV standard (625 lines at 50 hz line frequency, 50 fields interlaced to broadcast 25 frames per second).

NTSC (jokingly, "never the same color twice") is the U.S. standard, (525 lines at 60 hz line frequency, 60 fields interlaced to broadcast 30 frames per second).

No harm will come from providing a PAL signal to an NTSC monitor (whether CRT or LCD), it just won't work. The monitor must be the same standard as the signal provided. Some monitors (CRT or LCD) are switchable, and the BMW LCD probably is, as it's marketed in many territories. If it's a Euro car, the monitor is probably oriented to PAL, and any aftermarket manufactuer would be designing the DVD or VCR system as PAL, and vice-versa in the U.S.

Obviously, DVD's are sold in various territories called Zones, with some zones being NTSC (Zone 1) and PAL being Zone 2. There are DVD's sold as Zone 0 which will play on both standards. 1/2" VHS tapes on the other hand, are only sold (or rented) as PAL or NTSC, as there is no way to manufacture the dual-standard onto tape. I had hoped that when DVD was developed that there would be a consistent world standard to eliminate the PAL (which is MUCH better !) and NTSC difference, since DVD is digital, but f the equipment and software manufacturers can make more money, of course, they will. But, from a software manufacturer's viewpoint, if they planned on releasing a film in the U.S. 6 months before they release it in Europe (a frequent occurence), pirates would have it out in Europe on DVD before the film ever hit the theatres, thereby reducing revenues on the thetrical side.

Like everything, it all revolves around money, whether dollars, pounds, marks or francs !

BrianC · 18th November 2001, 22:07

Dear Steve,

There are 5 different PALs', 4 different SECAMs' and 2 different NTSC.
I think you're referring to PAL-I and plain NTSC. There is NTSC4.43 (used in Middle East mainly) with comparable resolutions as PAL.
I thought SECAM is used throughout Europe, and PAL mainly for the Asian market? I could be wrong on this.

There are 6 zones (as opposed to your 2 Zones) and it has NOTHING to do with resolution whatsoever! These are just header files on the DVD for the player to verify that you're watching DVD that comes from the country the player is intended to play. On top of the 6 Zones, there's Zone 0 which has a header file that yields a "True" (or a "Yes") when a region check is performed and that's why you can watch DVD of Zone 0's regardingless of what zone your DVD player is built for.
A while back, there were DVD players (I think it's called Apex) that has an internal circuit that allows users to bypass the region check and thus was selling like hotcakes on eBay and WalMart for a little while. The "feature" is soon turned off on subsequent shipment. My first DVD Player was a Sony and it had the same feature as well and I'm watching DVD from around the world now.

NTSC/PAL/SECAM has nothing to do with the different Zones of DVD. Please don't confuse readers on this board

At least state you could be wrong if you're not sure!

para22 · 18th November 2001, 22:19

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Originally posted by BrianC

I thought SECAM is used throughout Europe, and PAL mainly for the Asian market? I could be wrong on this.

Wrong wrong wrong

Actually secam is quite a dead system right now , it was used in france and some other countries a long time ago , now the whole europe has PAL system , and in ASIA there is NTSC (actually not the same as in the US) , anyway i heard that f.e Hong Kong has different systems than the whole asia , different DVD region etc. there are some members from HK (i recall only tfung but there are more) so someone could straight it out...

tfung · 18th November 2001, 22:33

Asia uses both NTSC and PAL... Japan has NTSC, while China, Hong Kong, etc and other countries use PAL.. but we all have multi-system televisions in Asia, where it automatically switches between the two standards.. I still don't understand why they don't sell multi-system TVs in the US..

BrianC · 19th November 2001, 07:15

I miss Hong Kong!
Left living there 15 years ago, but I still go back at least once or twice every year for vacation

What tfung said is true, EVERYONE in Hong Kong has at least one if not many multi-system TV & VCR and completely code-free DVDs

I think NTSC in Japan however, is the same as the ones we use here because I have several Video Tapes from Japan that I am watching with my NTSC-only VCR without a problem.

Voltage-wise it's slightly different between here and Japan. We are using 110V and Japan is technically 100V, but equipments I bought from Japan still works like a charm here.