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Old 11th August 2006, 15:57   #1
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Thanks for the colour clarification Karl. What is meant by "fueller" please (I'm all googled out!!)?
Interesting to hear my car was once for sale on that Willz website in Canada! Never heard of Willz before, however clearly a specialist retailer of high quality BMWs to the discerning enthusiast, like me!
Strong demand in Canada for such cars, with consequently high prices e.g. 1991 M5 saloon 3.5l, 193,000 km for nearly GBP 12,000! Time for me to export my 3 M5s!!
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Chris, I am not a 'paint-shop' expert who probably in technical terms cud explain to you what 'fueller' is, straight translation of 'fueller' is 'filler' and is the layer which is below the actual colour of your car. Your 'filler layer' is
-arktissilber- whereas the 'filler' f.ex. on the 'santorin-blue' is black and when the hood was repainted they used 'white' as a 'filler' = resulting in a different/lighter appearance of the colour compared to rest of the car AND
the colour that appears after stone-chips on the hood is -white- where it shud be 'black' AND on your car it should consequently be 'arktissilver' which
indeed should give a -solid- silver colour to the appearance of your car.
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As you can see, I am struggeling to find the right words, knowing the correct
technical terms would be so much easier BUT perhaps you know what I mean ?? It becomes -really- important first whenever you need to take care of a paint-damage, THEN the -paint-shop- really need to know what they are doing.
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Old 11th August 2006, 16:05   #2
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Ahhh...I think we call it a primer! Thanks Karl
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Old 11th August 2006, 22:50   #3
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Color question

I would say the "fueller" affect the shade of the color, or you guys maybe meant that?

I owned a 317 Orient blue 1995 540iA with M-sportpackage, when you ordered M-pack you couldn’t have Orient blue paint to the 1995 model year, but the first owner really wanted Orient blue so the Individual division had to fix that, then the “fueller” was Schwarz/Black instead of Dunkelblau/Dark blue like the standard 317 Orient blue cars had, I have two friends with 317 Orient blue 540iT/6, those cars where lighter blue than mine, mine looked black in some lights, so I would say the Individual Sterling silver is a diffrent color than standard Sterling silver.

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@ Karl the -fueller- paint thing is very easy to explain. In German, it would be called füller in BMW german, just like Nürburgring with dots on the u. However, the word Nürburgring completely in -capital- letters would say - NUERBURGRING- as the germans won't use the " on capital letters. So FUELLER is actually Füller, which is german for filler/primer. I think this means, like on many Alpina;s, BMW delivered the shell in basic primer, and Individual or Alpina sorted the color out.

I have recently posted a long story about this silver paint stuff:

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We could probably fill a book on silver paint.

It is true that BMW ( or BASF) use different shades for the same color. For instance, my Ascot E38 was a serious bit darker parked next to an E36 Ascot. Sometimes colors are being indicated with II behind the name, which can be a shade difference sign.
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Many thanks for your technical input. You mention BASF, is it still their Glasurit brand which is used in the factory & by BMW bodyshops please?
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Many thanks for your technical input. You mention BASF, is it still their Glasurit brand which is used in the factory & by BMW bodyshops please?
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Thats the word on the street. I know they flirt with Standox as well, and many dealer son't have in-house painting facilities so its down to what the repair shop uses
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ok thanks.
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Doesn't the Füller describe the contrast color on the lower sills and lower bumper parts??
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no, "fueller" means nothing more than "filler".
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Well, I disagree. My car, also BMW Exclusiv says Amethyst metall, füller schwarz, and it is in fact amethyst, with black sills and lower trim.
Can we check the colors of the lower trim of this sterlingsilber car?
To make a specific colored base lack is utter nonsense.
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