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post #1 of 134 Old 26th January 2017, 05:50 PM Thread Starter
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E34 m5 - value

Been around*here a while but haven't really gotten a bug to get*into an E34 M5 until recently.*Perhaps due to my HE53 and Msport that I have and now want to move up to an M5.

Are the 93's with the few updates worth a lot more than lets say a similar 91/92 - giving everything equal? I know the production numbers are the lowest for 93 in the US which makes*them harder to find.

I*like the sports mirrors most on the 93's.

Obviously, I would like a 94/95 with an S38B38 but that will have to wait until the 25 year rule applies to it.

What would a 93' M5 be worth with 100K miles? I have a number in my head but I want to know what*some of the experts feel they are worth. I am talking about a good*deal not a steal. Assuming inspection I and II have been done.

Thank you for any feedback.

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The 3.8 came out in 1991 in europe and the 3.6 was taken off sale. BMW only kept making 3.6's for the USA as the 3.8 couldn't meet the emissions so your 25 year rule can apply to 92!
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Bumbacult. I meant to say I wanted a 95 for 6 spd. what would be a fair price on a US 93 as described earlier. ?


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price really depends on the particular car. I've seen a couple of nice 93's in interesting colors, calypso and lagoon green, for the mid/upper teens in the past week. Great bargain's i'd say. Is a 93 (US Spec here) worth a premium over a 91-92? Probably, rarity, some extra stuff etc.

a 100k mile 93 US car? 20-22k i'd say, depending on color, condition, good service history etc.

That said, there are quite a few 3.8's in the US already, so short of importing a 92 yourself, if you came across an imported/federalized 3.8, that would be worth a premium over a US car, imho. Plus if you like the sport mirrors they were available on earlier cars in europe. Much better driving car, more power than you'd think given the numbers.

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I've never liked the wide grille and 18" wheels you get on the 6 speed cars. I would suggest the uptick between 3.6 and 3.8 is way more worth shooting for than the uptick between 5 spd and 6 spd. The true heart of the E34 M5 is the sided 17" alloys and narrow grille with badge..........


Edit - although I did read that the 3.6 is marginally more reliable as 3.8s were bored out to the max..... I'm still happy to be a 3.8 owner though - and preserve the original EDC - its expensive but so cool......

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3.8 is much more valuable in Europe, they are becoming rarer and rarer.
In Europe the price is dominated by the odometer readings, which I think is not the most accurate measure of a car's condition.
You can check mobile.de and autoscout24.com for EU price comparison.

You can have a 3.8 with narrow grille and EDC/Nurburgring suspension.

Just slap on the evolution 4 pot brakes with floating 345mm disc in the front and 1pot 328 in the back (u need corresponding hubs for that) and you have the perfect M5.

If you manage to get one of the tourings that's even better.

I don't think 6 speed matters much. Gives a little bit of cruising comfort, but you guys in the states can't cruise @ 120mph anyway. So useless. Difficult if not impossible to repair, and it being the world first 6 speed gearbox in a production vehicle doesn't help much. Adds definite coolness factor. Goes with a wide grille.

I'd shoot for that if I were you. At least I looked for those and after 2 years searching found such a car.

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You can have a 3.8 with narrow grille and EDC/Nurburgring suspension.

Just slap on the evolution 4 pot brakes with floating 345mm disc in the front and 1pot 328 in the back (u need corresponding hubs for that) and you have the perfect M5.

If you manage to get one of the tourings that's even better.
I agree!

Remember the original poster is in the US, so it's a bit more difficult. 3.8's were never officially imported, bmw felt it wasn't worth the expense to 'federalize' the 3.8 for the amount they'd sell. They will pass california smog, if in good shape, well tuned, with a healthy catalyst however (as my cars can prove).

When i last looked thru the registry at M5portal, there are about 29 tourings in the US, and 45-50 3.8 sedans. There's proportionally more 95's, as many people think if they're going to the trouble/expense, they want the latest and greatest.

I know of a daytona 3.8 no-sunroof model that might be for sale on the eastern side of the country, if the OP wants info.

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I agree!

Remember the original poster is in the US, so it's a bit more difficult. 3.8's were never officially imported, bmw felt it wasn't worth the expense to 'federalize' the 3.8 for the amount they'd sell. They will pass california smog, if in good shape, well tuned, with a healthy catalyst however (as my cars can prove).

When i last looked thru the registry at M5portal, there are about 29 tourings in the US, and 45-50 3.8 sedans. There's proportionally more 95's, as many people think if they're going to the trouble/expense, they want the latest and greatest.

I know of a daytona 3.8 no-sunroof model that might be for sale on the eastern side of the country, if the OP wants info.
Thank you for the response and heads up. Although, I love the Daytona it is not my color that I can live with. Are you referring to Scott's car in Atlanta?

I am currently looking at a 1993 Alpine White/Silver car. 100K with great service records. I used to own a 1995 E34 M5 that I bought from a friend who imported it back in 1995 and I loved it. Like so many things that we sell and later regret well this is one of them but the past is the past.

There was a silver/Silver in VA that was offered for sale a 1992. 95K. I don't see it on the autotrader any more. He was asking 21K looked well taken care of. Changed to M-Pars which I personally would do the same. Please don't hate

I hope that the White one does check out with the PPI if I move forward with it. I know many people say that the HE53 and the Msport that I have are just as fast it is still not an M5. It does not have SLS and the EDC which are cool features in the Euro models.

I am not looking for an investment grade car but a nice low mileage weekend/event cruiser to add to the collection. For some reason i am staying away from the 1991's.

Once again thank you everyone for your input. I will get to learn more about these cars if the deal goes through.
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I agree!

Remember the original poster is in the US, so it's a bit more difficult. 3.8's were never officially imported, bmw felt it wasn't worth the expense to 'federalize' the 3.8 for the amount they'd sell. They will pass california smog, if in good shape, well tuned, with a healthy catalyst however (as my cars can prove).

When i last looked thru the registry at M5portal, there are about 29 tourings in the US, and 45-50 3.8 sedans. There's proportionally more 95's, as many people think if they're going to the trouble/expense, they want the latest and greatest.

I know of a daytona 3.8 no-sunroof model that might be for sale on the eastern side of the country, if the OP wants info.
I'm interested in the Daytona 3.8 if you are willing to PM me any info you have.

I looked at the silver 92 in VA when it was priced at 17k on Autotrader (shortly after the owner moved from NY). It was in rough shape, it looked like someone dried the car with steel wool several times. In addition, a number of VIN tags were missing and a few were reapplied.

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I looked at the silver 92 in VA when it was priced at 17k on Autotrader (shortly after the owner moved from NY). It was in rough shape, it looked like someone dried the car with steel wool several times..... .
That happens to all cars with BMW silver paint (mine included) from sometime in the '80s to early '90s. I have seen multiple cars with same problem,and it also happened to my 1984 E24, which only has a couple spots not re-done yet. The M5 is now redone for that reason. It's not just one paint code, my cars are all different silvers. I have never seen the problem on anything newer.

The problem is the color coat, NOT the clear. Something breaks down and there is no fixing it since it is under the clear.

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