Would you like a one-of-a-kind, custom supercharger for your E34M5 - The Unofficial BMW M5 Messageboard (m5board.com)

samson · 22nd October 2004, 22:26

I’m selling a one-of-a-kind, custom designed supercharger for an E34M5. It was installed on my 93 M5 and produced, roughly, 100 additional REAR wheel HP. Translated to flywheel HP, the total output was 465HP. The installation process has been recorded on a wonderful webpage created by Ken Little. You can access it at:

http://www.bayaream5s.com/Building_T...Intro_P-1.html

I’m selling the supercharger because I recently bought a Ferrari 355 F1 spyder, and I’ve decided to restore my ‘collector’s’ avus blue M5, with only 24K miles to stock. Rudy Buhler, master BMW mechanic at CG Motorsports has labeled the “kit” components for me and says it is NOW a fully ‘bolt on’ kit. I make this distinction because when I received the first set of “kit” components – as listed below -- they were incomplete and required considerable work and experimentation with the engine management system to ‘get it right’.

What I’m looking for is $4,500 US or approx. $5,800 Canadian. This amount is one-half of the full amount I invested to produce the resulting bolt on kit. Buyer pays shipping.

If you are seriously interested, pls. email me at: rshaw1@shaw.ca, or tel. 604-737-8207

M5 Supercharger Kit Components

Item

First Set of Components Purchased from Pat Philpot
1) Vortec SQ2 Supercharger Ser. # 24067
2) Custom Machined Bracket for SC
3) smaller, more powerful generated lodged in Machined Bracket
4) Custom Intercooler
5) Set of complete custom made aluminum pipes for intercooler
6) Custom Crankshaft Pulley to Drive Supercharger
7) 3.48” Vortec Blower Pulley (good for 5-7psi)
8) Miscellaneous Bolts for drive pulley + to secure SC to engine
9) 6 ribbed polycog belt for SC
10) alternator belt
11) Idler Pulley for SC Drive Belt
12) Set of adapter hoses to link intercooler pipes etc.
13) Vortec Fuel Pressure Reserve Regulator
Sub-total for First Set of Components

Second Set of Components by Installers – Kinetic Motorsports
14) 6 large Bosch Injectors
15) Modified Oil Cooler Line
16) Modified Radiator Hose
17) Bracket for powersteering fluid reservoir
18) Custom plastic Ring for fan blade
19) Oil filter for oil return
20) Modified oil filter housing cover
21) Split Second Programmable Signal Calibrator
22) Vacuum lines from Split Second to pressure regulator + engine
23) Labor to install, fabricate components + engine management
Sub-total for Second Set of Components

Third Set of Components
23) Custom brackets to firm SC by CG Motorsports BMW
24) All sorts of mini-adjustments to check and improve the SC
25) Unused 3.32” Vortec Blower Pulley (good for 7-9psi)
26) Unused 6 ribbed polycog belt for SC
Sub-total for Third Set of Components

Cheers, Paul, alias Samson

Ratty · 23rd October 2004, 17:22

What an amazing opportunity for someone.. Sadly i'm not rich so it's not me.... but I read through the website about the project with great interest.. man on an engineering mission.... The M5 really is a good one too.. I wanted an Avus blue 3.8 but not in my price range yet.. I'd be happy to have mine working actually.... bloody electrics.. haha

racer_xbr · 12th July 2005, 03:13

Dear Sanson,

Did you sold the kit already?

if yes , can you provide contact info on who buy it ?

if no still want to sell ?

thanks

illjah · 12th July 2005, 17:42

droooooooooooooool......

abdo · 8th December 2006, 16:56

you haf the best kit for best car.....

i'm sory cuse i'm asseking abut yuo'r supercharger kit e34 .!!
that kit it vicsed on m5 e34 3.6 ?
from wher you get this kit & how can i order the same kit.?????.

pls rplay...........
abdo2u@yahoo.com

Sebring NL · 8th December 2006, 22:09

Do we really want to start this again?

I see a lot of nice custom made screw-on parts on that list..Nice for bragging on birthdays.

However:

The words "Piston" , "crankshaft" , "Headgasket" all shine because of absence.

Bolt on supercharger kits = big no no for me, sorry.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Little's page

Installing oil lines from the pan to the SC was a challenge. Unlike other cars, where the pan just pops off, the E34M5 requires that the engine be unbolted and lifted to access the pan. That’s a chore. One alternative was to use a magnetic drill, which would capture the shavings, then insert the oil lines. But the pan was aluminum. The other alternative, which we used, was to drill with a grease rag constantly tugging away shavings,

Sorry, biggest BS I have ever seen. IMO, if you are too lazy to take of even the sump in order to get 100bhp raise, you don't belong near a car with the hood up.

Wout

lagoonM5 · 8th December 2006, 22:48

Wout - have you ever driven a car with a 'bolt on' charger kit?
Reason i ask is i had a VR6 Golf which i fitted a Z-Engieering kit to.
Smooth was not the word for it - you couldnt tell it from Stock OE for driveability.
Not many cars i know where you could floor the throttle at 1000rpm in 5th on a gradient and it would just pull with no bucking.
This was with plug and play GIAC management.
From my experience with mine and quite a few friends who did similar conversions a good conversion will only enhance a good powerplant.....

Pete.

Mmm-Five · 8th December 2006, 23:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagoonM5

Wout - have you ever driven a car with a 'bolt on' charger kit?
Reason i ask is i had a VR6 Golf which i fitted a Z-Engieering kit to.
Smooth was not the word for it - you couldnt tell it from Stock OE for driveability.
Not many cars i know where you could floor the throttle at 1000rpm in 5th on a gradient and it would just pull with no bucking.
This was with plug and play GIAC management.
From my experience with mine and quite a few friends who did similar conversions a good conversion will only enhance a good powerplant.....

Pete.

Whereas me in my N/A Corrado VR6 with just revised head, cams, valves, VGI, etc. and AP brakes used to piss all over Nik Saran's supercharged Golfs at Castle Combe

I remember quite a few supercharged Golfs & Corrados not working right (between 1997-1999) - althought I don't know which kits they had (Vortec or something). Keiran & Mike from the Corrado Club were forever having problems with their's and both of them ended up paying twice over to get them working 'properly' as the people who fitted them wiped there hands of it after about a year of trying.

Sebring NL · 9th December 2006, 01:27

First of all, I respect all you guys a lot and I respect your knowledge and taste in cars too.

Secondly, I must admit that I am not a big fan of the VR6 engine. I think its badly designed, has not enough power output for the displacement,thermically a disaster, and is simply another try from VW to re-invent the wheel, just like the G-lader. ( Pete, just look at the fantastic 20VT engine and you know that I am right! Doesn't mean one can't love the VR6 engine though, its just not a masterpiece IMHO..)

On the other end of the scale, I find BMW's S38 engine. Nearly 90bhp / litre from an engine with large displacement and reliable for hundreds of thousands miles is simply astonishing. This engine displays the very definition of a race-bred, purpose-built, power efficient, factory tuned engine with margin for reliability.

Both mentioned engines cannot be compared. The fact that a bolt-on turbo works on VR6's doesn't mean much to me. I have some experience in Turbo'd engines and I can tell you that lowering compressions and stuff isn't 'just a thing for wimps'.. I found out the hard way.

The S38 is probably one of the least suitable engines out there for forced induction. And even if one would try, a 'cheap' bolt-on kit is the least favourable way..

This engine was thought over by some of the best engineers in the world. Let's not think some calculations and beautifully custom made brackets thrown in a Vortec can even stand in the shadow of the research & development BMW Motorsport did on this engine.

Stock S38, with stock pistons & compression ratio , with some 50-150k miles on it + bolt on supercharger kit = worst nightmare scenario for me...If anybody begs to differ, please fit a bolt-on kit and keep us posted!!I would love to be proven wrong on this one

London Mike · 9th December 2006, 01:42

Yip, the S38 is a stunning all round engine with a very high bhp/litre figure but in it's 3.8 form it's pretty close to its maximum reliable power. If there had been a safe way to extract another 100 brake then I'd have done it, the reason I went the V8 route is that there only so much you can get out of a 6 cylinder N/A motor. That's why the E60 is a V10, if you don't want to go forced induction then you just have to keep adding cylinders...