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post #1 of 10 Old 15th June 2011, 01:38 PM Thread Starter
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Repaint or not that's the question...and what about the costs?

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I'm running out of technical problems. The only real things left to do are the sls accumulators and the ignition coils. So now I'm facing the difficult decision of what to do with the body. To be honest I think I need a full repaint. As said in earleir posts there's no rust but quit a few dents and paint scratches. Any idea's on how to proceed? Do I need a full repaint and what will it cost? Estimate. I will post some close ups of the various problem area's.
The color is fjord grau....

THX up fornt for any comment....

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post #2 of 10 Old 15th June 2011, 02:25 PM
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I'm just starting on my M5 journey, but for what it is worth my thoughts are as follows:

- Values are relatively low, so a repaint might not pay for itself in terms of value in the way that it might for, say, and E30 M3.
- So if you think the car is a long term keeper (it sounds like it is if you are running out of jobs!) there would be an argument for doing it as it would make you happy and might add value to the car in the long run should prices rise
- I have read that repainting is all about preparation - so the cost can be extremely variable. Get to know the bodyshop well and ensure you trust the proprietor - this is crucial as you will likely want it "just so". if you dont have a good rapport with them then this will be difficult to achieve. I had the bonnet of another car painted at a cheap local bodyshop that had been recommended to me - I really hit it off with the owner and I got the job I wanted. I found a couple of minor issues and he visitied my house to rectify them. I think this proves that the relationship with the shop is at least as important as their reputation for quality. Obviously, try and look for a referral.
- There is also the question about whether you want authentic paint from the era of the car, or a more modern type of paint matched as best they can.

Hope this helps.
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post #3 of 10 Old 15th June 2011, 05:40 PM
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I'm/was in the same boat as you. Few little tiny rust spots I found, fixed them real quick but had dents, paint cracks, etc almost all over the place. SO I say go ahead and repaint just like mine



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Thanx so far for some courage under my belt. Obviously I want to do the lot and I fully agree with Matt about the relation stuff with bodyshop owner. Luckily I have such a relation.
If i would prepare the car as much as I can what are we thinking about then?
*Removal of all doors
*Removal of all windows
*Removal of all ornaments, lights, strips and things....
*How about the double electric roof?
*Reoval of all the electric windows in the side doors?

Lets assume I did all this by myself. what woudl be the cost then on an average? 3000 euro's? or a lot more?

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I would think 3k Euro's would cover it if you stripped the car yourself, unless you want a totally perfect show winning paintjob as the prep for that takes ages.

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I bought my e30 and the paint wasn't perfect (was checking under the clearcoat) and there were a bunch of dents all around the car. The car drove great so I bought it and saved up for a respray in the future.

I listened to my friend and let this PDR guy he knew go work on the car. He took a look and said $200 for all the dents he could remove. I thought I was buying into some snake oil, but when I came back 3 hours later I couldn't believe my eyes. I wish I had before and after photos as the car looked fantastic since all the warped reflections were now gone. It made me delay about painting the car for a while and I still haven't done it to this day.

So if your paint is in decent shape then I would suggest a PDR guy to get rid of the dents, have a detail cut/polish the paint and they could try to mask the scratches as well and this will get you a few more years before you take the plunge and repaint the car.
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Fully agree with this. Cut, polish, wax and dent removal is a very low cost solution and quite relevant for cars where the values arent all that strong. This is the route I am going with my M5.

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I bought my e30 and the paint wasn't perfect (was checking under the clearcoat) and there were a bunch of dents all around the car. The car drove great so I bought it and saved up for a respray in the future.

I listened to my friend and let this PDR guy he knew go work on the car. He took a look and said $200 for all the dents he could remove. I thought I was buying into some snake oil, but when I came back 3 hours later I couldn't believe my eyes. I wish I had before and after photos as the car looked fantastic since all the warped reflections were now gone. It made me delay about painting the car for a while and I still haven't done it to this day.

So if your paint is in decent shape then I would suggest a PDR guy to get rid of the dents, have a detail cut/polish the paint and they could try to mask the scratches as well and this will get you a few more years before you take the plunge and repaint the car.
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The only problem I have with respray is that if you want to do it properly, you have to strip the car.fficeffice" />
Issues that WILL arise no matter how careful you are will be : new Rattles, broken plastic clips, leaks, electrical stuff not working....etc...
Rather try and touch up as good as possible.
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post #10 of 10 Old 27th July 2011, 08:53 PM
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Should I decide to keep her, she's getting a full re-spray. I'm expecting around $4k US....
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