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Old 6th May 2010, 23:18   #11
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@ Tiago , thanks dude

@ Terry , these are 360mm AP racing rotors with custom center, brakes are off a CGT. For the rears, I'm mounting the std 4-pots of a 997s FRONT (nice for 997 owners in the pub , I got your front brakes on the rears of my old beater bmw). must meet up soon, where the hell are you now? The moon?

@ David. Indeed, the hexagon bolt was rusted. I had to heat it up for 2 years and put coca cola on it. Indeed there is curb rash on the rim, I cried. The other side is also damaged as I was forced into the temporarily low armco on the freeway evading a vile whore in a Panda

@ Mert , they fit behind neither throwing stars (17) nor M-parallels (18). 18 should be enough

@ Richard, don't know what will be better, I think sheer clamping force doesn't make much difference , its all about fade resistance. These are monobloc unlike some 6-pots, made by brembo. Haven't had time to fool around with pads, these are std CGT.

@ Roj send Tom a text , he has my number. Glad to help. Am in UK often


@ Ed. very funny. I need the extra doors for my extremely large ego.

Good to be back dudes.
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Off a CGT? They must be worth more than the car!
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Old 7th May 2010, 09:12   #13
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I bought the calipers luckily on eBay from someone who sold them a PIECE

approx 440% under the Porsche list price
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Looks great Wouter. Good to see the spanner (and fabrication) work finally done.

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thanks david.

it seems like years since we spoke. How are you and the family? And the car family? still have the E30?

It indeed has been a lot of work, but I could have done it in 2 weeks back-to-back working.
you know how it goes.

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Wout, it probably has been years ...

I and family all well. Still have both the M540i and the Hartge. Came close to acquiring a 525i touring (the only E34 touring ever sold in Australia) with a view to fitting a V8 or a V12, but decided against it as the car I was looking at wasn't a good enough example for the end result I was after.

Two weeks back to back!! - I hate to think what those brakes would cost someone who couldn't do the work themselves - particularly if they didn't get the bits at the favourable price you did.

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thanks david.

it seems like years since we spoke. How are you and the family? And the car family? still have the E30?

It indeed has been a lot of work, but I could have done it in 2 weeks back-to-back working.
you know how it goes.

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best brake upgrade ever!?
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damn...these are nice. But the cost!!! are they any cheaper alternatives that we can look at? not Brembo priced kits or on that level.

Was it very difficult to make the adapters to fit the CGT calipers?? any other Porsche calipers worth checking out? thanks.
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honestly, I dont need this stopping power on this car.

But I just wanted something special, and to shut the people up who mock my wheels. I love the AC's , and I'm no OEM freak to certain lengths so now there's no point in contemplating Turbines :d ( which I DO have btw)

I'm not sure if tthis is better than AP or MovIt, but I just like the fact they are monobloc, and the pads are cheaper than the Pagid Yellow. Also, with the detachable center, I can try different compound rotors , AP also do ceramics etc . The setup is made in a way that I can change BOTH pads AND rotors without disassembling the caliper.

With these thigns, its easy to make the bracket, but to think it up and "" R & D "" is different. I also used skinless blue steel , which is hard to come by, since they are linear mounted its crucial that the bracket it 100% square, something that is impossible to guarantee with normal steel unless its machined. I'm working on alloy brackets, but those have to be a lot bigger to be equally strong. The fitment of all parts is pretty tight, I have about 1,5mm clearance in the rim on the caliper, and 1mm clearance of the rotor hat bolts to the pad. M-parallels will hit the caliper, as will BBS LM.

@ ramsing

Porsche uses Brembo brakes, the ones off a 996 Turbo or normal 997 4-pots etc are all good and many for sale. Don't forget that rebuilding them will set you back another hundred if the pistons are ok. I wouldnt buy the Alfa Romeo GTA / Subaru Impreza/ Nissa 350Z brembo's as those are waste-basket stuff from Brembo.

A lot of people went for the 4-piston 911 calipers, I'd get them from the 993 or newer, 964's wont help you on E34's. MAybe for the rear.

One of the cheapest, fire-and-forget brake solutions is E31 Brembo's, which are still available from main dealers in the US at normal prices. This alloy caliper weighs less than the E32 S 320mm rotor-calipers and the 345er floaters and is cheaper to run.

Don't get me wrong , the floaters are a great setup, but they weigh more than my CGT calipers and the rotors in 345 weigh more than my AP's in 360 or 365. Plus the best pads are € 200 a set and harder to come by, rotors are easily warped even on the Ring especially on heavy road cars and will set you back € 200 a piece IIRC. This way, I drop 2K at once and a lot of work, but the residual value will be good ( clients keep asking me to do a set) and running cost lower.

Also, this setup can be transferred in an hour onto our M535i driftcar, in case we want to use that for some heavy, jap-beating drifting once the Hartge engine is in. Slam the E34 and E28 on the hoist, use the calipers over the weekend and then reverse it. 2 hour job, so my invested money and time is spread over 2 cars.

If anyone ever needs reasoning to spend cash on cars, give me a shout. I'll hook you up with stupid reasons

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wow - very intersted to see exacltly how this was done.

i have used the e34 m5 caliper and disk setup on my e28 m535i. as you know its a bolt on upgrade which makes a huge difference
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