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Old 5th November 2009, 22:32   #1
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Headlining Overhaul

Like many of you, my car is 17 years old and although the interior is in remarkable condition overall the headlining has always let it down a little as it had begun to delaminate and sag in places. As a result there were several very obvious 'droops' above the rear seats near the grab handles and the areas around the sunvisors and sunroof were also baggy. Over and above this the sunroof liner was a bit baggy and there was an unsightly gouge out of the drivers side inner door seal trim. I had hoped to document the process as a step-by-step photo guide but confess I remembered only once I had already removed the old headliner. Sorry!

Anyway, I purchased a new hedliner, fixings and door seal trim from the dealer and set to work:







To remove the existing headliner you must carefully remove all the ancillary fixings such as the sunvisors, clips, vanity lights, grab handles etc. It is also useful to at least partially unclip the A, B and C pillar trims. Just go slowly to avoid breaking the fragile securing clips on these parts and carefully store each screw and fastener removed!

I also fully retraced the sunroof as I wsa removing the sunroof liner too but this also made it easier to see where to unclip the old headliner around this area with a series of metal clamps which can be pushed out.

Old saggy headliner removed:



Bare roof:



The new headliner supplied by BMW has almost all the necessary holes pre-cut, however if you have the vanity lights under the visors the rectangular holes must be cut for these by hand before you install the new liner in the car. Helpfully, the reverse (non cloth) side of the headliner has the shape marked out so you can carefully cut as necessary with a sharp Stanley knife. I would caution that cutting slightly smaller than the outline is best as these need to be a tight rather than slack fit and it would be awful to have the vanity lights rattling around in your new headliner when you put it all back together!!

Note the 3 square plastic clips along the rear window line - these slide into 3 brackets on the rear of the headliner and are pushed into spring clips in the roof to secure. Very important to remember and order 3 new ones as they tend to get damaged removing the old headlining:



To get the old headlining out and the new one in safely the best option is to remove the rear seat cushion, recline the front seats fully, then adjust the front seats to their rearmost position and you can easily angle the headlining panel in at an angle through an open rear door (you can also just make out the 3 brackets across the back of the headliner that I mentioned):



Once installed you need to attach the metal clamps around the sunroof apeture on the new headliner - again it's best to buy an ample amount in case you break/lose one or more and I'd recommend 20 or so. These clip onto a pre-fitted metal bracket around the sunroof apeture of the headlinder and then secure this along a corresponding metal bracket around the roof. Makes more sense when you see it perhaps in the absence of good pics here. You can see the bracket around the apeture in this picture:



These are some of the clips & clamps you need:



Once the headliner is secured front and rear with the clips the remaining parts that were removed serve to secure it firmly such as the sunvisors, clips, vanity lights, grab handles etc. You can see here the finished result and it looks so much better:













I finished the job off by fitting the new driver side door seal. This was a pain to do as the new seal is a very very tight fit, especially around the corners of the door frame. I recommend heating it with a hairdryer or similar as you go and it makes life a lot easier. The finished result is a nice fresh door trim felt in the cabin:



I also splashed out on a new sunroof motor cover panel as they are about £15.00 and compliment the new headlining nicely:





Overall I am very happy with the job and am just waiting for the sunroof liner to be recovered by a trimmer as BMW now longer supply these. Again, it has delaminated a to a degree and the original glue is not holding up. Once this is done the interior will be a lot fresher and more befitting the car.

I would definitely recommend this as a DIY job as various quotes ranged from £400 for a retrim of the exisiting headliner with no guarantee of a colour match to the A & C pillars etc or £200 just to fit the new BMW headliner. If you have the parts, fixings and a helping hand it can be done in around 4 hours. Total cost about £230.00.

Parts used:
51 44 8 126 463 - Headliner Silbergrau Sunroof Option
51 44 8 126 472 - Motor Cover Silbergrau
54 21 8 195 800 - Clip x 3
51 43 7 194 187 - Clip x 3
51 44 1 957 623 - Bracket x 3 (essential)
51 44 8 181 426 - Clamp x 8
51 44 1 938 868 - Clamp x 20 (essential)

Hope this is of interest/use to some of you. Feel free to ask any questions about the procedure and I'll do my best to help.

Duncan
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Old 5th November 2009, 23:05   #2
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Wonderful write-up !

Here in Nigeria the climate doesn't help matters.

On my 535i I saw a bubble in the headliner at 08:00hrs and by 16:00hrs the whole headliner was sagging. Same thing happened to my brothers E46 323i. Seems BMW's are weak in this area.

I'm praying the M5 doesn't exhibit these symptoms anytime soon.

Cheers and well done !

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Old 5th November 2009, 23:23   #3
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I am planning on recovering my headliner, parcel shelf and A,B.C pillars soon.

I saved the headliner card and parcel shelf from a parts car, so I can take my time.
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i never realised the little clips behind the sunroof-motor cover were to hold the allan-key manual release tool. mine lives in the toolbox in the back!
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i re-wrapped my headliner rather than buy a new one. cheaper and faster, as spares for cars this old in my country need be flown in from other countries. but either way looks good
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Great job as always Duncan. Your car will certainly be one of the better RHD cars around when you are finished with it.
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awesome job Duncan! fells good to renew stuff on the m5 doesn“t it?
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Thanks for all the positive feedback on this. It was a satisfying job to complete myself (along with my glamorous assistant) and one which I'd put off for ages and ages but had always bugged me! I appreciate that for some of you the preference or easier option may be to recover an existing headliner but I was glad to have bought an all-new item as the headliner board itself wasn't in the best shape either so recovering it still might not have resulted in a good finish. The main issue with a retrim is getting a good match or contrast with the A,B and C pillars or it can really look odd.

As for the little allen key on the back of the motor cover - I think most cars will have the tool in the toolbox but I bought a new one just to fix to the back of the cover so there is one there and in the toolbox. I know I need help - I am a bit sad!!! The small details like this do please me though.

Next up is to finish the sunroof trim panel and tackle the parcel shelf. I'm hoping to just get the shelf recovered in the oringinal cloth as I think it will only need a new base and adhesive to cure a few wrinkles near the speakers. I'll post up the results in due course
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Nice job. I do love some new parts on the old girl. I've been debating recovering vs. new myself. Isn't the new headliner crazy expensive?
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Nice job. I do love some new parts on the old girl. I've been debating recovering vs. new myself. Isn't the new headliner crazy expensive?
Thanks! It's not too expensive, at least here in the UK - with a litle discount I paid just over £200 which was cheaper than most of the quotes I had for a retrim and I knew it would be a factory finish when installed. But, I have seen other people getting a great job done with retrimming so it's just a case of what you have available locally and at what cost I guess.
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