do you think that if i change to the ucc short shifter it´s going to solve the problem of being soft?
no... the short shiffter has nothing to do with it....
remove your shift panel, its very easy and dont need any tool at all...
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You wash your car like it was your firstborn child, you tend to its needs like it was your own body, you rotect it like it's your family, then you drive it like you stole it.
I find my 3.6 5 speed works properly when "moving on", ie, toe and heeling during braking and downchanges, then the gearbox is quick as you like, almost race car like.
up-changes in town driving, I tend to skip a gear, ie, 1st to 3rd, or 2nd to 4th, works for me and saves a slow speed change which isn't required.
This method requires keeping the revs slightly longer (750 rpm) in the lower gear before changing up, which I guess means a higher flywheel speed is obtained before changing, hence smoother selection of the next gear.
I'm usually "fully off during town" or "on it" with my M5 driving; if it's a "grandparent outing style drive" then I don't use the M5
I had read that one of the upgrades in 92 on was softer clutch effort. As compared to my 911 Turbo the clutch on the M5 is very heavy. Any downside to putting a 92 vintage clutch in my 91? Has anyone noted an improvement in drivability (gasp) in a traffic jam?
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At first when I was driving the M5 daily I also had troubles driving the car smoothly in traffic. I experimented with my technique...things like at what revs I'd shift, how fast I moved the gear lever, how much pressure I removed from the gas pedal between gears, etc. Now the car is as smooth and easy to drive in traffic as any of my others. This car takes some adjustment and thought from the driver, which is one of the things that makes it so satisfying when you get it right. It's a feeling that very few other cars con provide. That said, there are still 2 distinct "moods" if you will that the car exibits in town. The first is the mature, dignified mood where the car is smooth, quiet, and relatively slow. I've been beat through intersections by honda civics and hyundai elantras when being mature. The other is the brash, bold, cockstrong mood when the car will get loud and smoke the Evo in the next lane. This duality is one of the interesting aspects of the E34 M5 that I'd be hesitant to change. I love the fact that I can have my mother in law in the car and she doesn't notice anything amiss beyond the rumbly bass heavy idle. Then I can crank it up and forget my morning cup of coffee. Consider carefully the modifications you make to this car (particularly those that dramatically effect the character of the car like clutch/flywheel and suspension) and remember that an update may not be an upgrade.
If your Porsche is easier to drive in traffic, take that when you expect traffic. I realize that in NoVa this may condemn the E34 to sitting most of the time, but that'll only make you appreciate it more when you have it out. I also realize that it may seem a bit off to speak of a 911 turbo in this way, but it truly is the everyday supercar.
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I had read that one of the upgrades in 92 on was softer clutch effort. As compared to my 911 Turbo the clutch on the M5 is very heavy. Any downside to putting a 92 vintage clutch in my 91? Has anyone noted an improvement in drivability (gasp) in a traffic jam?
The old parts were superseded by the new "softer" pressure plate, so that any production M88/S38 car with a factory single mass FW now receives the same new softer pedal clutch kit. I don't know of a downside in the new parts, there may be a clamping force difference in the pressure plate, but it's much easier to live with if the car is a commuter.
I totally agree with Roortube in that I don't want to make the M5 a sedan de ville. But, having driven M3's and an Mroadster I never felt the lighter clutch effort detracted from the experience. I spent 3 hours in a traffic jam in Boston with the M5 and my left thigh is still bigger than my right! I am reassured by Kalevara's info on all clutch plates being of the newer variety... No decision needed! My new tranny goes in Wednesday in addition to new interior doorskins, sunroof seal and radiator reserviour. Has anyone added a brembo brake kit been satisfied?
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91' E34 M5 93k
03' Porsche X50 Turbo
03' Ferrari 360 F1 Spider
I totally agree with Roortube in that I don't want to make the M5 a sedan de ville. But, having driven M3's and an Mroadster I never felt the lighter clutch effort detracted from the experience. I spent 3 hours in a traffic jam in Boston with the M5 and my left thigh is still bigger than my right! I am reassured by Kalevara's info on all clutch plates being of the newer variety... No decision needed! My new tranny goes in Wednesday in addition to new interior doorskins, sunroof seal and radiator reserviour. Has anyone added a brembo brake kit been satisfied?
Where in Boston? I sit in traffic there all the time ! I actually don't find the clutch too heavy, but it is much heavy than my Subaru. I guess it's cause I'm young - these legs don't mind.
I found the e36M3 and the e46M3 clutch havier then mine e34M5´s...... I really expected the clutch on my car to be havier, but since i got it i can live with it without any problems! don´t get tired...no legs soring...
Softer Cluch on 92' and newer?
! I actually don't find the clutch too heavy, but it is much heavy than my Subaru. I guess it's cause I'm young - these legs don't mind.
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