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Old 17th June 2009, 08:49   #1
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Restore the faith please?

I don't like BMW. Never have.

But a month ago I bought my M5 because after driving it I wanted it. It was awesome. Great power, Handling and just looked mean.

I have never drivin it past 5000RPM since I bought it because I like to get a feel for my cars before I start goin crazy.

On monday night at about 7PM I started her up drove for about 50m and then all hell broke loose. Backfiring, revs was all over the place and didn't realy drive anymore. It dropped a few valves.

Now I have to decide If I want to spend my next year or more salary to fix it or if I should just cut my losses and sell it.

Please, I'm sure someone out there can give me a reason why I should bother to try and fix her.
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Old 17th June 2009, 09:50   #2
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If you have to spend a year's salary to fix this car , then I would sell it because there are no guarantees that you won't have to carry out further maintenance going forward and these cars deserve to be looked after which ultimately costs money and requires passion !

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But a month ago I bought my M5 because after driving it I wanted it. It was awesome. Great power, Handling and just looked mean.
Here are a few of the reasons why you might bother to try and save her !

How about a used engine ?

How do you know she has dropped a couple of valves ?

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Got my mechanic to take a look and that’s almost 100 percent sure it's valves. Just phoned for a quote on all the bits for rebuilding the complete engine. Bearings, gaskets, seals, rings and few other things. Will wait and see what happens and then maybe make up my mind.

This is the second time something like this happens to me, that’s why I'm maybe a bit over cautious. Last time I spend almost R50000 on my Nissan and sold it shortly after for R20000…
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Old 17th June 2009, 20:18   #5
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Please, I'm sure someone out there can give me a reason why I should bother to try and fix her.
Because they're cool and you will fall in love with it.
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Agreed dan kelly, theyŽre lovely cars! i felt in love with mine and spent the money i paid for her already. we all know that e34M5Žs need our time, patience and good care. they find our love and weŽre hooked. Bertie, i would really wait for the quote and see if it fit my pocket...if it does, fix it an keep it. if it doesnŽt, let he go... depending on your engine problem, itŽs better to find an used engine and make a transplant. some of us go for the new engine or rebuild route...it all depends on you! best of luck and let us know!

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Let's face it, a working E34 M5 is not worth the sum of the cost of the parts needed to keep it on the road, its our passion for these cars that keeps them on the road, not their value!

Trust me, spend the money, get her back on the road and take her above 5,000rpm and all monetary woes will be forgotten.

However Davidoli is right though, these are expensive cars to keep on the road, thats why they cost Ł50,000 nearly 20 years ago. Was this factored into the equation when buying the car?
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Let's face it, a working E34 M5 is not worth the sum of the cost of the parts needed to keep it on the road, its our passion for these cars that keeps them on the road, not their value!

Trust me, spend the money, get her back on the road and take her above 5,000rpm and all monetary woes will be forgotten.

However Davidoli is right though, these are expensive cars to keep on the road, thats why they cost Ł50,000 nearly 20 years ago. Was this factored into the equation when buying the car?

jon, you said it all!!!
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On monday night at about 7PM I started her up drove for about 50m and then all hell broke loose. Backfiring, revs was all over the place and didn't realy drive anymore. It dropped a few valves.
1. Never buy a 20 year old car simply because you want it and it looks mean. Sleep on it, then reconsider. This should prevent you from getting bitten a third time.

2. Valves don't typically just "drop"... Failure is usually precipitated by something else - like a broken or loose timing chain or a mechanical over-rev, sucking something through the intake, etc.... The striking of piston on valve will be bone-jarringly audible if the timing is off.... A bit of backfiring and a hunting idle could be cause by dozens of relatively inexpensive things...

3. All of the magic (and the last 120 horsepower) happens between 5000 and 7000. If you never rev it over 5000 - you might as well have bought a 535... Just make sure you're pointed straight!
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... Just make sure you're pointed straight!

or ready to go sideways
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