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Old 14th June 2009, 03:02   #1
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Turtle Wax "Black Box"

Here's on for all of us who have black M's; I was at my local parts haus, looking through there selection of cleaners, polishes, waxes, etc. when I came across a product called "The Black Box" by Turtle Wax. Has anybody here come across that, or used it? And if so, how well did it work? I've been using Griot's Garage products for a few years now, and I'm very satisfied with the results, but as a detailer by profession, I am always looking at other things to see what might work better. Let me know
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Old 14th June 2009, 15:19   #2
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Hi Jonathon - not seen this product in the Uk that I'm aware of. I started to think that TurtleWax had been left behind by the competition, such as Meguiars, Swissvax etc these days? Would be good to know if it's a worthwhile product though....

On a side note since you are a detailer by profession - what are the best products/techniques for bringing our M5 engine bays up to scratch? I have never been able to achieve a good look in the 'bay!

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Old 14th June 2009, 15:49   #3
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We sell the turtle wax black box at work...haven't used it on the M, but we had a detailing workshop for customers, and I used it on one of my techs Charger SRT8. It came out pretty well, but his paint is much newer and heavily pearled. The wax kind of dulled the pearl a bit, which I don't see as being an issue on the M blacks, but I've always steered away from waxes that may dull the color on my own cars. maybe I'll try it cuz I now have a tub that was only used once. I've always used Meguiars products, but the wife just bought me a Griots orbital bag kit, so I'll be trying that out in the coming weeks. glad to hear that you like the results.
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Duncan, I appreciate the question, as it's a very good one. I would have to respond to your question with a question, though. What have you tried so far? As for general suggestions, I would say that using a good general degreaser on the entire engine compartment, while it's warm, such as going for a short drive, say to your local market, or just a few blocks, just enough to get the engine up into operating temp, but just barely, should be sufficient to help soften the grease and grime, then spray it on there, and let it soak for about 5min. after that, using a LOW pressure spray, wet various area that you intend to work on, and scrub it with a soft to medium brush, doing it just like you detail the rest of the car, a section at a time(inne wheel house, engine, intake, so on) scrubbing and rinsing each section at a time. Once you get the whole thing cleaned, you can finish it with whatever engine dressing you prefer, applying it with an applicator pad, and then enjoy the look of your perfectly detailed engine compartment. Hope that helps
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I have no experience with this so called 'Black Box' by Turtle Wax, but I would be weary of any wax that is supposed to 'enhance' or 'paint over' the car's existing paint. I know Turtle Wax had a series a few years ago that came in colour coded bottles along with a scratch removing lipstick. Needless to say I was not impressed from a practical point of view, nor a theoretical...how they expected to cater for the millions of shades of red, black, grey etc was and still is beyond me.

I do, however, use their Platinum Series Wax and have had good results. I recently used it on my wheels, as shown in the pic.

It has a high Carnuba content as well as a light polishing effect to remove minor oxidation. Another benefit is that it works on plastics too as it contains no chalk as it's polishing agent.

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Thanks, that was my impression also, but I figured it was worth asking about, before I made the purchase, so I appreciate the input. I know what you are referring to about the "Color Magic" series, and I 've used it at work, but that was up to the dealership I work for, I just do what they tell me.
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Hi Jonathon - not seen this product in the Uk that I'm aware of. I started to think that TurtleWax had been left behind by the competition, such as Meguiars, Swissvax etc these days? Would be good to know if it's a worthwhile product though....

On a side note since you are a detailer by profession - what are the best products/techniques for bringing our M5 engine bays up to scratch? I have never been able to achieve a good look in the 'bay!

Cheers,
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Duncan,

I should mention, now that I've pretty much scared you off of detailing your engine compartment, I should say that this method is the hard way. The easy way would be to cover all exposed electrical and intakes, spray the area down with your degreaser of choice and then use hight pressure steam to clean the engine. once that's done, use compressed air to dry it off, and then dress it
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Thanks Jonathon, thanks very much for the advice regarding detailing the engine bay. I'll certainly give this a go in due course and probably use the 'hard' way as that usually means you get the best results!
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Sounds good, and send me some pics when you get it done, I'd like to see it
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