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post #11 of 20 Old 18th July 2009, 12:14 PM
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I recently started working with somebody who worked on the F1's back then at McLaren & I asked him about the M5's. The white one was owned by somebody who still works there servicing the F1's (he now has a Skyline) & the red one was actually a M5 Touring
That M5 would have been newish then.

So that's why F1 services start at £25k.

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post #12 of 20 Old 19th July 2009, 05:44 AM
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I recently started working with somebody who worked on the F1's back then at McLaren & I asked him about the M5's. The white one was owned by somebody who still works there servicing the F1's (he now has a Skyline) & the red one was actually a M5 Touring
I'm not saying you heard or remember wrong, but the white one is a touring. You can see the roofrack-strips on the roof, saloons never had those. It also has the M-aerodynamik mirrors, and as the date of that footage is mentioned to be the 23rd of december 1992 it has to be one of the very first M5T's built. I think it would take Kalle all of two minutes to put a VIN on that Touring!

(Edit: BL01116 is white with rails...... Has it always been in sweden?)

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The latest issue of EVO has a very nice tribute to the McLaren F1 on its 20th anniversary. It features an interview with Gordon Murray, a testdrive, the Le Mans victory, an owner's meeting in UK and much more. Nice reading!
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While the F1 is obviously the daddy I was quite impressed by the baby grandson a few days ago......


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Was it a looker in the flesh?

Apart from a few headlines I haven't been that impressed by the MP4/12C so far. I agree with Peter Stevens that is looks a bit generic (in the pictures at least), and compared to the F1 its packaging is totally unremarkable. It's major achievement is the monocoque, but everything else seems to merely represent incremental improvement on what has gone before. Seems a bit of a let down after the F1, regardless of the performance figures.

I hope it looks genuinely good in the flesh, and not just an Ascari clone.

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Who gives a f*ck if it's a looker or not? It delivers the old car's performance in a proper carbon tub at GT2 pricelevel. That is one fifth of what the old car cost. And makes everything in the same price range look seem very old fashioned and out of date. Oh and I've had a look and feel around a KZ1R a few years ago, that was nowhere near on fit and finish, and had an out-of-date and seriously too expensive V8 lump when it came out.

Packaging wise MP4-12C may not be remarkable, I don't think that's a negative. I've seen F1 servicing bills.

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Was it a looker in the flesh?

Apart from a few headlines I haven't been that impressed by the MP4/12C so far. I agree with Peter Stevens that is looks a bit generic (in the pictures at least), and compared to the F1 its packaging is totally unremarkable. It's major achievement is the monocoque, but everything else seems to merely represent incremental improvement on what has gone before. Seems a bit of a let down after the F1, regardless of the performance figures.

I hope it looks genuinely good in the flesh, and not just an Ascari clone.

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Who gives a f*ck if it's a looker or not? It delivers the old car's performance in a proper carbon tub at GT2 pricelevel.

I've seen F1 servicing bills.
F1 servicing bills acknowledged in my earlier post, though confess I have no idea how they amount to so much on a relatively uncomplicated car unless several fundamental lightweight components get replaced due to short fatigue life.

Re MP4/12C, I do care if it looks good or not. I care even more that it sounded like a hoover going up the hill at Goodwood FoS. Ron Dennis is very successful/effective etc, but I'd bet he can't light a party up.

Ferrari 458 may be slower, but in looks, sound and charisma it has the new McLaren tagged.

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ive always loved mclaren f1s. this was a nice lil history. i learned a lot about the car i never knew

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