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Old 14th August 2008, 00:20   #1
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New member/prospective owner from Switzerland

Hi All,

I've just landed in Switzerland a few weeks ago from New Zealand and have always liked the E34 M5s. I was wondering if there were any other members from around here?
and also, does anyone know where i would look for an m5 here, or if it is possible to bring one over from Germany or someplace else in Europe?
My car history:
I've never owned an m5 before, but ive had 2 e34s, a 525 and a 540, although that was a while ago. my last car was a jag xk8... i know, i know...
Looking forward to talking to some m5 owners and finding out more about the cars.
Thanks heaps.
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Old 14th August 2008, 00:28   #2
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Germany will have the greatest number of cars, Switzerland may well have some hidden gems too as will Holland and Luxembourg. It is a question of deciding upon a 3.6 or later 3.8, your budget, preferred colour and then drive a couple, look at the bills etc and spend some money. Websites and forums will be your best bet...how good is your spoken German / French??
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Old 14th August 2008, 00:35   #3
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Thanks for the quick reply.
I'm not too fussed about the colour of the car, although ive always liked my cars in blue or black.
I'll have to take both the 3.6 and 3.8 for a drive, ive got no idea what to expect from either. I'll have a look through the forum and see what to look for and everything.
My spoken german is pretty much non existant. Guess i didn't really think that one through before i moved here...
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Haha. The Swiss are an unusual bunch and not much into their motorsport. However they do like spending money on cars. The 3.6 is a better allrounder but the 3.8 is the later model and has more go, low end. The 3.8's are also more expensive but may be better equippe and EDC is marvellous. Find a decent mechanic and buy him a crate of beer before you arrive with a car. Are you also prepared to spend more on the car in running costs than buying it!!
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Yeah, i noticed theres a couple of nice cars around where im staying. quite a few of the e60 m5's but haven't seen any e34s. Are the 3.6's more reliable or anything? I'll also have to ask round and see if anyone knows of a good mechanic.
I'm used to spending money on running a car so i dont think it'l be too much of a shock to the system, the xk8 is a shocker.
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Hi Allenus,

If you are willing to take a drive to Holland then there is a 3.8 with only 31T Km's for sale @: Marktplaats.nl > BMW M5 3.8 340 pk 31.000 km!! alle opties 1ste eigenaar !! - Auto's - BMW Looks pretty good, and the price is comparing with E30 M3 with the same milage fair I guess.

When everything is true about the car it's quitte a collector.

Good luck with your search!
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Kia Ora Al,

I think Germany is your best bet, sites like autoscout.de and mobile.de are good. Also the Das E34 M5 Diskussions-Board has a for sale section. Ebay.de sometimes.



Don't be afraid to ask a question in English, I always get responses back in English from Germans. (I don't think they mind english language posts on the Das E34 M5 Diskussions-Board - good guys the German M5 owners I have met.)

Although with prices going through the floor in the UK you could probably find a LHD car there for good money.

A question for others - didn't Swiss versions have less power due to some ECOnonsense?

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I believe the 3.8's in Austria and Switzerland were rated at 334bhp due to electronic management restrictions and later this dropped to around 327bhp!!! Bloody emissions police!
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I believe the 3.8's in Austria and Switzerland were rated at 334bhp due to electronic management restrictions and later this dropped to around 327bhp!!! Bloody emissions police!
Did the Swiss 3.8 use the more restrictive catalyst from the 3.6?
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Yeah, i noticed theres a couple of nice cars around where im staying. quite a few of the e60 m5's but haven't seen any e34s. Are the 3.6's more reliable or anything? I'll also have to ask round and see if anyone knows of a good mechanic.
I'm used to spending money on running a car so i dont think it'l be too much of a shock to the system, the xk8 is a shocker.
Hi mate,

I once drove an XKR on a track. It was a performance match for the E34 M5 and very refined but an inferior driver's car, no offence intended.

If you buy an E34 M5 you will be buying a car with the potential for controls of unbeaten linearity and fidelity. I'm not saying the steering has more feel than an Elan for example, but it has a consistency and weighting that gives you so much confidence in its ability to point or reign in this one and three quarter ton car. It is far superior to the synthetic feel of the (quicker steering) E39 Sport I owned. I could write a page about the throttle alone - compared to any modern car and even any performance car I've driven it gives you incredible opportunity to meter out the power according to grip available - you really don't need traction control. It is a driving experience that will surpass that of any of the newer BM's I've driven even if they may be quicker.

I say potential because it seems that most of the cars on sale need a considerable amount of work to reach optimum. I have spent almost my purchase price again in 5 months, with more to come. However, it is worth it - the improvements are obvious. I would say it's a shame you're not in England where we can sample the talents of Mr Darren Farrell - he works wonders with the cars. It may even be worth a trip over.

My experience is two 3.8's owned. I've driven a 3.6 and I thought the engine was really sweet, smoother and revvier. The 3.8 feels more torquey though and still has top end zest well beyond normal performance cars. Either car is amazing in the 4-7k rpm band, they just don't tail off. The ultimate spec is often thought to be the 6 spd 3.8 with big brakes but my current 5 spd feels much lighter (apparently gearbox is 30 kg lighter and there's less unsprung weight). IMHO 6th gear was only of use in the UK until I got my driving ban.

This is a car that provided much of the engine experience for the McLaren F1, including the rose jointed throttle linkage, con rods, crankshaft, and sodium-cooled exhaust valves. Every revolution of the engine is special. An XK is a very nice car but ordinary in the detail comparison.

If you're thinking of one you must get one! I think it is a deeply fabulous car to own.

IMHO this Board will add considerably to your ownership experience. It will also present opportunities in the event of problems.

Please post the updates
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