pigapumbu

Hi Steve,

not sure if you sold the car already. I was revisiting your add today and something struck me. If i was a buyer, the last thing I like to see in a seller's advert s 1000's spend on the car. It sort of tells me, yup,, now its your turn for the 1000's to keep the car running. As you have mentioned new suspension etc is more than enough.

I know this forum likes to advocate 1000's spent on a car as a selling point but to a buyer, its off putting. We all know whats involved and 90% of those looking to buy these cars know whats waiting. last thing they want to read is further proof that this car has gone through lots. Would be better to list out the major new things on the car as opposed to sumarise it in $$$ form. Honestly speaking, so long the car is not wrecked before, EDC done a few months back, no engine leaks, belts done recently, its enough! You need to try and sell the idea to the buyer, look there are many cars out there but with mine, for the next year or more, major costs won't spring up (unless you abuse it of course). Get the confidence of the buyer to that line of thinking.

Also, it won't hurt to say you had the car to X number of years. The bigger the X number the better. Its better cause the buyer prefers to get a car from someone thats kept it, cared for it. Not from someone selling it after a year. The latter gives the impression that the seller is hidding a potential repair bill they don't want to do and hence selling the car. This is after all a nice car so why sell. Get where I am coming from?

Hope you don't mind my frank opinion. Just giving you some insight into what a buyer tends to look for. I know cause I was one a few months back. Oh and one last thing, try not to say you repaired or worked on the car yourself. Thats a no-no . For the buyer, it means the person couldn't afford looking after his car 'properly' ie get a proper mechanic to do it. What else has been skimped? I know this is not really the case for some people who know what they are doing but to the buyer, its not a top selling point. Might even be a disadvantage.

We always hear, money no object in maintaining the car. Yeah sure.. the real proof is in the pudding as they say. Judging from the current cars on the market, you have a good chance to sell it.

cheers and good luck. I am sure you had tons of calls and viewings. Just hang in there till the 10th buyer comes along.

Sebring NL

Could you stop this please? Are there any things you would like in a real-world car?

Its driving me crazy.

This is soooo unbelievably wrong..Look at my "Major Wrenching Coming Up" thread or the "Getting hands dirty on E34 M5 Touring"

There are some people that are never satisfied.

If the hood is chipped, its bad.
If its resprayed, even worse.
If the reg plate was replaced, its probably been totalled.
If the rear seat is unused, its probably been thrashed as a sales rep car.

Dont draw these huge conclusions from ads.

Maybe you have more experience than me when it comes to selling cars, in that case neglect my comments.

Thanks.

pigapumbu

Mate I don't know what your problem is. Please check what the originator of the thread wrote. Incase you missed it, "...but any constructive criticism will be appreciated".

Unlike you, I don't fool myself about these cars. If you think they are easy to sell and buyers are lining up, please monitor the cars advertised in UK. They are there for ages and most of the time, get sold for well below expected price.

I was giving my constructive advice based on a buyers perspective to Steve. Its up to him to take it or leave it and I don't see why it seems to bother you? Perhaps your cars are sold in an instant and thats great.

There are tips to write up a car for sale. And in a field of many, how can the advert stand out more than the rest. Its the same when I look at an advert to buy a house. The first main picture and certain words grab the attention and thats half the advert sold. The trick it so get interest from the advert, a call and a visit to see the car.

Autotrader UK also lists tips.. Read here. Notice anything of importance? Especially Things not to say and pricing.

I would like to help steve shift his car cause he is serious about it. He has priced it well and is honest. He did ask for any constructive criticism and I am trying. What real constructing help have you offered to Steve? All you have done on this thread is be rather sarcastic toward me. If you have anything of importance to help Steve please list it. I would also like to read and learn more. I am not interested to buy steve's car nor other E34 M5s.

This is a forum and everyone has a right to participate or this is this E34 forum just for a few select who feel or think they are one better than the rest and anyone with a different take has to be ridiculed?

Cheers mate.

Sebring NL

Riiiiight.

I never knew that existed!!

Man am I glad that I know how to sell a car now.

pigapumbu

You are the expert and the man!! I am just a nobody. I will not stop you. Take over and give all the top advice.

cheers
"Not ignorance, but ignorance of ignorance is the death of knowledge."


Hi Steve, sorry for hijacking your post off a tangent for that. I never meant to. Will not reply further mails not related to selling of your car so as to keep with your thread.

cheers

Sebring NL

You call your trolling good advice?

Get a car first, talk about ownership later.

There's more to owning a car than just contemplating. IF you would know ANYTHING about M cars, you would not say a dry engine, EDC and belts are the key things.

You make this stuff sound like some mathematic calculation , I'll have you know there is no way in h#ll that anyone can justify owning a performance car.

Just keep dreaming about M5's. I'll happily pay serious money to drive and maintain mine. Why? Because its one of the few good things left in this f%cked up world.

Steve Mac

Hi guys

thanks for advice eric and i agree with the thought of 1000`s spent being a bit off putting but there is also the mentality that its money you shouldnt have to spend, so hopefully immediate bills should be at a minmum, hopefully that is but nothing in life is definate and any bill can come and bite you in the a*se

I will however put the fact i`ve owned her for over 6 yrs in the ad, good call

lets keep it friendly guys ALL OPINIONS CAN COUNT

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Sebring NL

Anyone thinking owning an E34 M5 is gonna be a cheap business will be proven very wrong.

Its OK to state recent big bills in ads IMO, if thats not good anymore , what is?

Its OK to state criticism about someone elses ad, but IMO we should really focus on CARS rather than ads.

The best mechanics I know are not much of a talker, or PC user.

Bottom line, there are a million of schemes of the past, present and future of a car that you can have in your mind. Guess what? Most of it is proven false.

"Great shops" like Munich Legends make mistakes during maintenance.

Even the mint cars in the Baker Collection get broken EDC at some point, or an AC unit that needs work

Some of the best looking cars around ( f.i Farrells) have been resprayed

One of the strongest Tourings I have ever seen sees some 160 Ring Laps per year and has 274,000 km on the original engine.

Some people buy 20j Anniversary cars by accident.

Cars without history ( Goneagain's) can often be just as good or better than cars with loads of history ( Alan's Sebring)



I dont wanna personally attack Pigapumbu, but come on. You are most welcome at our board, spend time and time again finding a good E34 M5, which in your opinion is not a car that "lasts" , only to tell us whats wrong about all the ads. Thats the same as asking every hooker in Amsterdam's name and telling which one is the best lay judging from that.

So I dont think one should think ahead too much and draw conclusions from ads that are not even to be drawn from looking at the car in real life.

Ask guys like

IvanDias,
Hertfordshire1 ,
Jon Baker,
Peter Pan,
Finaledition Terry,
Goneagain,
Illjah,
AndyE,
Faz,
Davidoli,
Stevie,
MMMfive Tony,
The Bigfellah,
M540iLE,
Simonal
Chas C
Jahangeer
DrSakke
RaymondW

or any other owner who have done their time and walked their talk what they feel about these cars.

It might be a good idea to listen to long-time enthusiast owners when it comes to buying a car rather than meticulously ploughing through Pistonheads looking for a car that has its T-star covers the wrong way around.

Don't stand on the treshold too long ...Just buy a car you like. There will be cheaper and better ones for sale before and after that. You can count on it. But at least, you'll have a fantastic car in the meantime.

I could have been a rich man if I hadn't spend a lot of money on cars since I was 17. The M5 is one of the cheaper cars to maintain compared to what I used to own.

Guess what? If I had to do it again, I'd do it all again in the blink of an eye. No doubt. Its not just the car, its the lifestyle.


W


PS Hope your car goes to a good home Steve..I always loved the color.

cheers.

Simonal

Piga

I have a question for you....are you ever going to buy a car?

The reason I ask is because all I ever see from you is talking these cars down explaining that one car was not right because of this and anther car is not right becasue of that.......sounds like you do not know what you are looking at or indeed for........just an observation.

Simon

Jahangeer

mods please create another thread so more people (incl. myself) can comment without going too ot.

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