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Old 5th August 2007, 12:57   #101
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hmm

nice to see some body work being documented,

Looks like a good shop for this..

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Old 5th August 2007, 13:38   #102
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Hi Guys, I bought #77 a few months back as an MOT fail & have been doing some mechanical work prior to tackling the "minor welding" work required, as quoted by seller.

after rebuilding the front calipers & fitting new top mounts, wheel bearings etc i took it to my local bodyshop to get a good look at what was required weldingwise.

It turned out that the minor work is actually pretty major with repairs being needed to the jacking points, sills & floor. It really needs new rear wheel arch panels too & there are a few smaller areas that could do with touching up.

Seeing the recent photos above & reading the posts tell me that this is pretty common. The dilemma i now have is whether to continue or try & sell up now as i have other commitments etc (halfway through converting my 635 to manual for example).

Is Ebay the best place to move one of these cars or are there entirely too many time wasters ?

appreciate your thoughts,

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Old 6th August 2007, 18:21   #103
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Hi Dave .....have the guys given you an estimate for the welding ? Are you certain that you want to call it a day as once you have her done .....she's done and you know you have no worries .......

The jacking points at the front don't have to be welded back in as you can simply jack her up on the chassis ( thanks to my m8 Yorkshire Nigel for advising me of this ) .

Personally , I just use ebay to gain exposure and create interest ..... you only need one person that is serious and hopefully you can do a deal outside of the bay !

I don't need another project at the moment but I'm sure that there would be a queue of enthusiasts that do !

Good luck and p.m. me if your want some more personal and specific advice ...
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Old 8th August 2007, 00:33   #104
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Sorry to hear about 077, a car with an unusual spec, too!

Unfortunately these cars are 20 or so years old and although they were better protected than most of their contemporaries, time is taking its toll.

The sills and toeboards (where the sill joins the floor and bulkhead) are usual. Jacking points tend to be the first sign of weakness. If the big drain hole in the bottom of the front wing is blocked (behind the front wheels - hard to find anyway if the car has the M-Technic kit) then expect trouble.
The rear floor around the big subframe mounts can also be expensive to fix properly. The rear arches can develop corrosion between the inner and outer - hidden by the plastic arch extensions on an M5, too - the lips are a mud trap.

As you might have gathered, I am collecting images for a forthcoming Buyers' Guide for the BMWCCGB website.

I can add that a friend had the sills done on an E28 some years ago by Jaymic in Norfolk. The job was expensive - four figures even back then - but it was photographed at various stages (35mm colour prints!) showing the care taken and when complete was indistinguishable from original.

Ten years ago the toeboards in my M535i cost about £400 at a well-known specialist (this was for both sides) - the sills were OK, fortunately, though one front jacking point needed attention as well. The work was done extremely neatly, cutting out all the rot. That was a low-mileage, low-owners '85 car, then 12 years old, so it was a case of catching it just about in time. I owned it for four years after that and it needed no further structural attention in that time.

What's the rest of the car like? If the interior is good then that's very much a positive. Some localised attention to the paint may be OK.

An M5 will always have some value as parts, not least because the major bits are unique to it (and the M635CSi). A set of wheels on ebay is £300 or so - I can't say what the other bits would fetch. A silver leather interior is very rare and may be sought-after.

There are a number of specialist dealers who will take these cars to break for the parts value whereas something like a 518i will just go in the crusher complete.

I suggest you don't rush this decision!

As you are a long way North then you might find it more difficult to get serious ebay bidders, especially as it would need transporting - I know of one vendor (not ebay though) selling a very original M5 with low miles and continuous history from new which is still for sale because he lives in a relatively remote area and people won't readily travel to view.

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Mfiver,

understand the rusty areas are pretty common, have had a couple of M535s before the M5. I think the car is far too good to break & need to decide whether to repair it or sell up & move on with my other project. Will take some photos & start a separate thread on the subject.

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David,

Love the progress so far of No.66, just wondering are these new jacking points etc a simple trip to a dealer as a replacement part or is it a case of getting them made up from a specialist?

Would love to see the car some time just to take in what has been done etc. Also to catch up.
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Hi Tom ..... I will be using the original jacking squares , as , despite appearances , they are fundamentally sound .........it's just the metal around them thas has rusted .

I believe that you can buy new jacking squares from the stealer ......

You are welcome over anytime to catch up m8 .

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Thanks for the reply, I guess thats good news then. Just a case of welding new metal around the jacking squares.

I bet they are not cheap from the stealer.

I will take you up on that as I have next week off if your about. Will PM you.
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A rather disappointing ride over to the bodyshop to scrub in my new ps2s on the Mauritius E34 M5 resulted in my man , Roger , telling me that last week's rain and other miscellaneous factors have lead to very little being done on my baby whilst I was away on vacation .

I have been assured that upon his return from a long weekend at Spa in Belgium we will get my black beauty finished .....

I know and love Roger too much to flip out just yet .......

We'll see !
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