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Old 1st October 2009, 21:17   #11
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Raymond,

Everything seems to be coming together well for you including the helpful assistance from your friends.

Cant help thinking if it was pretty awkward to fit the manifolds on your vehicle, how bad is it going to be on a RHD with the steering box adding to the woes ?, oh well lets hope we dont find out !.

Wishing you good fortune with the remaining minor tasks to complete, & following your thread with interest as are others.

BTW the engine looks amazing probably better finish than new !.

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Old 4th October 2009, 23:09   #12
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I took a picture from underneath to show the recent progress.



1: I reinstalled the heat shields on the exhaust side (green arrows). I replaced the heatshield on the engine mount (light green arrow) as the old part was *******. Although it would be nice to replace all the heatshields with new parts, this was not really necessary as the two other heatshields were OK.

2: As can be seen, the PAS-pump and AC-pump (red arrows) are still kept in place by securing-belts. I have placed an order for all the required parts to assemble these on their respective brackets. The PAS-pump and the AC-pump require refurbishment before reinstallation.

3: The slave cylinder (blue arrow) has yet to be refitted. I will replace it in the future, but not right now as I have set explicite goals to avoid unnecessary work in the context of this engine-rebuild.

4: The small orange arrow points to one of the oil-channels. I have seen pictures were this opening is covered by a nut and I have seen some pictures were this is not. The parts catalogue does not list any part so I have placed this subject on the outstanding issue list.

5: I also will not replace any suspension parts, even though they are now easily accesible. They are beyond the scope of this project. My focus is finishing it. After the #231 passes the break-in phase, I will reasses their condition.
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Old 4th October 2009, 23:23   #13
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Cant help thinking if it was pretty awkward to fit the manifolds on your vehicle, how bad is it going to be on a RHD with the steering box adding to the woes ?, oh well lets hope we dont find out !.
You certainly have a point there, even though that I know that the headers for the RHD and LHD variants are different to allow the steering-box to be fitted on RHD cars. This simply is not possible with the LHD headers.

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Wishing you good fortune with the remaining minor tasks to complete, & following your thread with interest as are others.
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Old 10th October 2009, 15:21   #14
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The next step on my ‘to-do’ list is the reconnection of the shifter mechanism. Two weeks ago, we analyzed that the gearbox rod joint caused some play in the movement of the shifter-rod in the longitude direction (yellow arrow). The play in vertical direction (purple arrow) is negligible.



Despite that the cost of this part is far from excessive, it also is not negligible so after some deliberation, I bought a new one. A comparison between both old-and new parts revealed that the hole is eccentric, i.e. the longitude play is normal. A visual comparison did not result in any differences, but for 22 Euro, I could not bother. Note the two O-rings that cannot be seen, but are not supplied with the rod-joint.



The other (lower) purple arrow shows a completely deteriorated plastic washer that fills the gap between the gearbox-rod joint and the gearbox shifting-shaft. Even though the connecting rod itself fixes the gearbox rod joint to some extent, the eccentric hole allows the rod itself some movement and without a functional washer also a slight additional movement around the vertical axis. This plastic washer prevents additional transversal load to the shift-rod seal in the gearbox. These are known to leak, even after replacement, but I sincerely doubt many workshops are aware of the plastic washer in the gearbox-rod joint. Always replace this part whilst you’re at it.

The gearbox rod-joint and the plastic washer are not the only parts in the system that need to be checked. This also applies for the bushings in the shifter arm on the gearbox. Especially on cars that have seen ‘appropriate use’ these rubber bushes can cause sloppy and inaccurate shifting-feel. The bush itself doesn’t cost much, but is very difficult to reach with the gearbox in place.



Measurements learned that the play in #231’s old bushes is about ±2mm. Since I have the entire shifting linkage out of the car, replacing the bush was easy. I cleaned the arm, added a tiny amount of lubricant and pushed the new bush in place.



The fixing clip is the reason why it is close to impossible to replace this bushing with the gearbox in place. It is located at the top of the gearbox, i.e. no working space to apply enough force to lift the clip from the alloy housing.



The following picture shows the shifter arm with the new shifter (shorter model) before these are installed.



As the bushes are the parts that wear out, the shifter-arm and the shifter-rod can be reused. Last but not least, I finished the shift-linkage with a new boot (the old one was *******).



Even though I cannot give driving impressions, the first tests (dry shifting) revealed a much tighter and more precise gear-change.
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Old 11th October 2009, 12:27   #15
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Looks all good Raymond! Keep up the good work!
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Just about the best thread(s) on the whole board. Thanks Ray.

btw, my gearbox on the e34 was changed while the donk was rebuilt, also took the opportunity to renew all linkage bushings etc.
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Following this once again with great intrest Awesome, definitely THE M88/3 reference thread on the internet, together with the LHD #231 engine rebuild thread!
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Work is slowly but steadily progressing. Yesterday evening, I finished the installation of the propeller-shaft to the gearbox. The hardy disk and the three M12 bolts were replaced in April 2008. As these have been used no more then 500km, I reused the hardy-disk and the bolts. The self-locking hex nuts have been replaced though. Unlike the E34S M5, the bolts are 8.8 rated. With other words, torque them at 81Nm instead of 110Nm.



The PAS-pump has been cleaned and inspected after which new brackets were fitted.



The PAS-pump back in its place; the spanner rail and idler have been replaced with new parts not only for cosmetic reasons, but also to allow easy and precise adjustment. The old parts simply were corroded to much.



Many thanks to member Miles for the pictures of #411 that he send me two days ago. I didn’t make enough pictures whilst disassembling the PAS-pump and AC-pump so his pictures were a much needed reference for the reinstallation of the PAS-pump.

The following picture shows the main-earth cable (red arrow) and the PAS-pump back in place (green arrow).



The next item on the list is the installation of the AC-pump.
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Simply amazing. When do you think you can do a first test run/drive ? Should basically feel like driving a brand new car...

Had some rather annoying problems with my M88/3, cost a small fortune to fix, and I still feel like the engine does not idle the way it should. Intermittent vibrations to the interior, but maybe that's normal for these cars ? What's the correct idling speed for an M88/3 anyway ?
Also when you ease off the gas pedal when driving lower speeds, she kind of shakes a bit, as if she's saying 'come on, step on it'.

Bottomless money pit these cars, or so I've heard

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Thanks for the report. All this is great to see. I hope to be doing something very similar very soon.
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