1200 mile service complete at 1132! - The Unofficial BMW M5 Messageboard (m5board.com)

SCORPIO · 24th March 2006, 05:46

So, 1200 mile service completed today.

Took the car in with 1132 miles.

I followed the 1200 mile break-in to the letter. Only D2,D3 and S2,S3, not more than 5500 rpm, not more than 105 mph.

Take it to the dealer and the service advisor (who is the Dinan performance guy), the shop manager (also the race lead), the techs, etc. all asked me why I followed the break-in, they recommended that I should have driven the car as hard as I am going to drive it everyday...since I track my cars and drive fairly spirited, I was very confused, but felt good that I followed the break-in recommendations.

Anyways, the said that the cars they have had in the shop (540,545,550,645,650) that have had the most problems were those that followed the break-in procedure then drove the snot out of the car. Those that ignored the break-in had stronger cars, but they may have consumed more oil.

Anyways, after the service, I was in peak rush hour, so not much fun, but did play with P500S, S5 (S6 not available yet in iDrive) and had some fun going to redline.

This car is wicked fast...

Took the wife out to dinner tonight and on the way home, there is a black Neon SRT-4 with a turbo playing around on one side of me. My wife looks at me and says, "Don't EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!". He takes off, speeding up, slowing down, blowing his wastegate....

So, I press the "M" button and floor it...he was blown away...after about 1/4 mile he was 4-5 car lengths behind and falling further behind.

Meanwhile, my wife is hyperventilating in the seat next to me with her hands over her eyes, so I slow down and let him pull up along side of me.

I roll down her window and he says, "Man! What have you gotten done to that thing?!" - "Nothing, it's a stock 507hp V-10". Man, it felt good to say that...then I realize, I know this kid -

This is the kid that spanked my Mini Cooper S race car before I had the ECU for 100 octane, headers, and fuel injectors done...the kid I have been looking for to race again with the Mini. He recognizes me and we laugh, I told him the Mini is ready for him now...

Needless to say, this kid is not used to getting his butt kicked on the streets, so while it was an easy kill for the 1188 mile on the odometer M5 in P500S, S5, it still felt good.

And, I didn't get in trouble. I just got - "You couldn't help yourself, could you?".

NOPE!

I love my wife!

EM5PWR · 24th March 2006, 06:32

that's pretty funny......

M CRISIS · 24th March 2006, 07:22

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Originally Posted by SCORPIO

I roll down her window and he says, "Man! What have you gotten done to that thing?!"

Great story! This car is a real sleeper, especially in silver gray which your story just prooved. Sounds like your wife is a real sport! Thanks for sharing.

NobleM400 · 24th March 2006, 07:38

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Originally Posted by SCORPIO

Take it to the dealer and the service advisor (who is the Dinan performance guy), the shop manager (also the race lead), the techs, etc. all asked me why I followed the break-in, they recommended that I should have driven the car as hard as I am going to drive it everyday...since I track my cars and drive fairly spirited, I was very confused, but felt good that I followed the break-in recommendations.

Anyways, the said that the cars they have had in the shop (540,545,550,645,650) that have had the most problems were those that followed the break-in procedure then drove the snot out of the car. Those that ignored the break-in had stronger cars, but they may have consumed more oil.

Most race techs and engine builders do seem to recommend a relatively hard break in, similar to how an engine would be broken in on a dyno.

SCORPIO · 24th March 2006, 12:03

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Originally Posted by M CRISIS

Great story! This car is a real sleeper, especially in silver gray which your story just prooved. Sounds like your wife is a real sport! Thanks for sharing.

Yeah - I can't believe the warp speed sensation - I am used to getting the car up to speed over a distance, this car is literally like warp speed, you get moving so fast so quickly, yet it feels nimble, it's NUTS!

I love the Silver Grey - it truly is the wolf in sheep's clothing.

My wife knows I have a racing problem...she knows I can't help myself, as long as I only do it for short distances, she's okay...and she lets me go to the track and race...so this weekend I will have both the Mini and the M5 out at the track for some fun!!!

pvr · 24th March 2006, 14:50

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Originally Posted by SCORPIO

...Meanwhile, my wife is hyperventilating in the seat next to me with her hands over her eyes, so I slow down and let him pull up along side of me....And, I didn't get in trouble. I just got - "You couldn't help yourself, could you?".

I love my wife!

Great story and fine wife. She's quite understanding. I'll have to do this kind of stuff with my wife not in the car.

mkerouac · 27th March 2006, 02:04

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Originally Posted by SCORPIO

So, 1200 mile service completed today.

Took the car in with 1132 miles.

I followed the 1200 mile break-in to the letter. Only D2,D3 and S2,S3, not more than 5500 rpm, not more than 105 mph.

Take it to the dealer and the service advisor (who is the Dinan performance guy), the shop manager (also the race lead), the techs, etc. all asked me why I followed the break-in, they recommended that I should have driven the car as hard as I am going to drive it everyday...since I track my cars and drive fairly spirited, I was very confused, but felt good that I followed the break-in recommendations.

Anyways, the said that the cars they have had in the shop (540,545,550,645,650) that have had the most problems were those that followed the break-in procedure then drove the snot out of the car. Those that ignored the break-in had stronger cars, but they may have consumed more oil.

Anyways, after the service, I was in peak rush hour, so not much fun, but did play with P500S, S5 (S6 not available yet in iDrive) and had some fun going to redline.

This car is wicked fast...

Took the wife out to dinner tonight and on the way home, there is a black Neon SRT-4 with a turbo playing around on one side of me. My wife looks at me and says, "Don't EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!". He takes off, speeding up, slowing down, blowing his wastegate....

So, I press the "M" button and floor it...he was blown away...after about 1/4 mile he was 4-5 car lengths behind and falling further behind.

Meanwhile, my wife is hyperventilating in the seat next to me with her hands over her eyes, so I slow down and let him pull up along side of me.

I roll down her window and he says, "Man! What have you gotten done to that thing?!" - "Nothing, it's a stock 507hp V-10". Man, it felt good to say that...then I realize, I know this kid -

This is the kid that spanked my Mini Cooper S race car before I had the ECU for 100 octane, headers, and fuel injectors done...the kid I have been looking for to race again with the Mini. He recognizes me and we laugh, I told him the Mini is ready for him now...

Needless to say, this kid is not used to getting his butt kicked on the streets, so while it was an easy kill for the 1188 mile on the odometer M5 in P500S, S5, it still felt good.

And, I didn't get in trouble. I just got - "You couldn't help yourself, could you?".

NOPE!

I love my wife!

I read a study a while back that said to break the engine in hard for best results. But there was a qualifier. The process had to start at mile 1. You basically had to thermal cycle the engine. Warm it up then run it hard for 5 minutes let it cool down completely and run it hard again. There was a specific process over multiple warm up and cool down cycles. If you just run it hard once in a while, I think you run the risk of the rings not seating properly.

Digi · 27th March 2006, 02:10

I'd say the dealer is half right. Breaking it in by the book up to 1200 miles, and then driving the p$ss out of it would probably be worse than just driving it hard from the beginning. This is why BMW recommends gradually increasing the demands until 3200 miles.

Do you think BMW just wants to increase their service costs for those following the break-in? This doesn't make sense. They must have statistics that breaking in according to their plan reduces problems. I'd believe BMW over the dealer on this one.

SWP · 7th April 2006, 00:35

What service comes after the 1,200 mile service? Would it be the 15,000 mile service?

How often would you change the oil? I think I would change at least every 7,500 miles?

What do you think?

M5 Cowboy · 7th April 2006, 02:02

Nice work Scorp. Your next assignment will be to get your wife to still love you after you install an Eisenmann Race.

Digi · 7th April 2006, 04:26

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Originally Posted by SWP

What service comes after the 1,200 mile service? Would it be the 15,000 mile service?

How often would you change the oil? I think I would change at least every 7,500 miles?

What do you think?

I'd do a 7500 mile oil change on an M car. I think they are subjected to more than "normal" driving.