Sport Auto RS-6 VS M5 - The Unofficial BMW M5 Messageboard (m5board.com)

JeffS · 29th October 2002, 14:50

do not know if you guys have seen this link.......some interesting numbers to see......maybe one of our German speakers can give us an overview in English...

http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=30

floris · 29th October 2002, 15:29

...all I wanted to do was reply :-)

In summary:

Nürburgring Nordschleife:

Audi: 8.20min 258Km/h topspeed 6/10 points
BMW: 8.28min 248Km/h topspeed 5/10 points

Hockenheim

Audi: 1.17.6min 180Km/h topspeed 6/10 points
BMW: 1.17.6min 186Km/h topspeed 6/10 points

Acceleration & Breaking

Audi: 0-200 18,7sec
200-0 5,7sec
0-200-0 24,4sec 7/10 points
BMW: 0-200 16,9sec
200-0 5,2sec
0-200-0 22,1sec 7/10 points

Aerodynamics at 200Km/h

Audi: Front -49Kg lift; Rear -4Kg lift Cd 0,31 6/10 points
BMW: Front -5Kg lift; rear -32Kg lift Cd 0,287 6/10 points

Lateral Gs

Audi: 1,1g 6/10 points
BMW: 1,1g 6/10 points

Slalom course 36meters

Audi: 118Km/h topspeed 4/10 points
BMW: 124Km/h topspeed 6/10 points

Avoidance (lane change) course 110meters

Audi: 137Km/h topspeed 6/10 points
BMw 130Km/h topspeed 5/10 points

Results

Both cars gor 41/70 points

mweel · 29th October 2002, 17:47

This is the old M5 vs the new Audi right? Just wanted to clarify.

//MWEELS

SUPRA · 29th October 2002, 18:52

Quote:

Originally posted by mweel
This is the old M5 vs the new Audi right? Just wanted to clarify.
//MWEELS

Old M5? It should be the one you can buy in the shop today.

No one seems to be certain but when the new M5 E39 was launched it was given 35 points. (tested 3-99)
Where the extra 6 points come from I actually don't know but things have been updated I understand.
I just hope they re-tested it and didn't just give it another few points just because...

I have a file I can send to Gustav if he likes

SUPRA · 29th October 2002, 19:00

Also the RS6 Saloon was tested by Swedish Magazine Teknikens Varld. This is a magazine I trust.

0 - 100 km/h 4.99 sec
0 - 200 km/h 17.56 sec
402 m 13.13 sec. @ 177.84 km/h

70 - 130 km/h 4.7 sec. (any M5 figures?)

Braking from 100/200 km/h 36,8 / 151 (meters)

M5 E39 was tested at 5.32 s to 100 km/h.

SUPRA · 29th October 2002, 20:08

Here is more about the Track Challange data
http://www.bmwm5.com/vbulletin/showt...&highlight=rs6

Mr Janne · 29th October 2002, 23:17

The M5 was tested in Teknikens Värld nr 16/2002. Here is the performance figures:

0-100 km/h - 5,32 seconds
0-160 km/h - 11,6 seconds
0-200 km/h - 17,42 seconds
0-240 km/h - 26,63 seconds

70-130 km/h - 4,75 seconds

I think it´s strange that TV gave the M5 5 stars in this test and suddenly it has 4 stars in the RS6-test and so does the RS6.

SUPRA · 29th October 2002, 23:23

It is equally strange that the first test drive of the RS6 in T-V was not so good and the second deeper test more or less overwhealming.

English EVO also gave the X-Type R 5 stars as well as the M5.
But both T-V and AMS gave it 4 out of 5 saying the M5 is better.

But it's all about emotions I guess...

SUPRA · 29th October 2002, 23:41

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr Janne
I think it´s strange that TV gave the M5 5 stars in this test and suddenly it has 4 stars in the RS6-test and so does the RS6.

Hmmm...if you give it a second thougt it is not strange, only a little bit hard to imagine for the M5 lovers maybe.

They gave the M5 5 stars before they tested the RS6.
After testing the RS6 it is now the

As you can see in the comparison:

"BMW M5 falls on technical knock-out."
"The old master is beaten and irritatingly for BMW it is a matter of technical knock-out.
The fact that the BMW M5 is 124.000 Euros less expensive doesn't help when the RS6 has a better engine, powertrain and chassi"

The RS6 still got 4 stars though. S-Type R, E500 and X5 4.6i S 3 stars.

Not my words, don't kill the messenger!

Mr Janne · 30th October 2002, 00:02

Well, the strange thing is if the M5 got 5 stars three months ago and the RS6 is better, why doesn´t the RS6 get 5 stars??

Boston m57777 · 30th October 2002, 00:08

I hate to say it but if you change the software in the RS6 it will absolutley smoke an E39 M5. Just look at what they can make an S4 do. I bet with computer reprograming over 500 hp is definetly possible. I HATE AUTOMATIC TRANYS

glowrider · 30th October 2002, 17:57

Yeah, but the chip also blows the turbos like on my friends S4...How does one go about getting on the list for an RS6?

SUPRA · 31st October 2002, 00:26

When I visited MTM this summer they had just laid hands on the RS6.

They were guessing to get a 700 bhp version then - a little more than chipping and 2.000 USD of course to take care of that - but hey your talking to the company that made the RS4 go something like 320 km/h++ ...
( http://www.mtmonline.de/videos/Nardo1.mov )

The MTM-versions for the RS6 at the moment are:

515 PS mtm
543 PS mtm
572 PS mtm
612 PS mtm

Not to mention the torque...

It's sick! I know!