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          Old 23rd November 2001, 20:57   #1 (permalink)
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          New 745i, First hands on impressions

          New 745i, First hands on impressions

          I saw the new 745i for the first time "in the flesh" today at a dealer's in Berlin. Until today, I was thinking "maybe it just doesn't photograph well" or "maybe pictures don't do it justice".

          Well, it doesn't photograph well, but that's because it's a phenomenally ugly vehicle! It's heavy set, dis-proportionate and just plain ugly.

          Definitely, pictures don't do it justice. It's even uglier in real life! Speaking of justice, I wonder if justice will ever be brought on Chris Bangle? What would be the appropriate punishment for murdering a once beautiful luxury car? Quartering between four slowly accelerating 745i's? When will the board of BMW wake up to this version of "The emperor's new clothes"? When will they realise that un-warranted self esteem in conjuntion with the skills of persuasion and articulation have nothing to do with real design talent?

          After having recovered from the first shock, I sat down for a coffee, watching the car from a safe distance whilst waiting for my winter tyres to be fitted. As my senses of proportion and scale slowly recovered, a friend rang. Still affected by the encounter with Bangle's creation, my first words were: "The new 7 is an absolute DOG!" Suddenly, I sensed someone looking at angrily me. It was the German Sheperd (dog, not teutonic agricultural professional) accompaning the lady a few tables away. My next thoughts were: 1. "You understand English!?" 2. "You're on a leash, right?" 3. "What an absolute insult and injustice to the canine species I made in comparing it with the new 7!" As Mr. Dog was not only familiar with the English language, but also a sharp mind reader, he nodded approvingly and turned his attention back to the table leg.

          For some reason, all of this made me remember a clever TV commercial where a rhino is trying to mate with (what I think is) a Renault Kangoo. I wondered if even a rhino would try to bone the new 7? If he does, he might be impressed by the power assisted boot opening and closing system. The really worrying thought is that their off-spring might be the new 5 series.

          So, what's the interior like? Different, but not a great improvement on it's pre-decessor. The cup-holders seem better (how could they NOT?), but probably would not hold a can of Red Bull during hard cornering, so still useless. The I-drive concept has been taken a bit too far, and if you don't go off the road playing with I-drive, you definitely will if you try to adjust the seats! To produce a car (or for that matter any operable device) with worse ergonomics than it's pre-decessor is absolutely criminal! Just waiting for the first I-drive lawsuits...

          It breaks my heart to see a company that we know as a producer of beautiful and purposeful driving machines, degenerate into embracing concepts such as: "Funtion follows form", "Change for the sake of change" and "Being different without any other purpose". This used to be French territory (ever drive a Citroen?).

          So what's it like to drive? Don't know. Decided I wouldn't even want to be seen dead in one.

          Actually, as an estate, it would make a decent hearse!

          Just my 0,02 Euro
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          Old 26th November 2001, 01:07   #2 (permalink)
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          I heard that Chris Bangle is going to get fired, but I don't know if it's true...I wouldn't mind if it was true, though
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          Old 26th November 2001, 02:00   #3 (permalink)
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          Uggh....

          I think that BMW was trying to accomplish too much at one time. The styling is really strange. I mean, it doesn't really work for the 7 series. The 7 series is the top of the line BMW, except for the M5, and the styling looks like something a Japanese car company would come up with.

          Bangle gets fired, a glorious day for Bimmerheads! No so for Bangle.

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          Old 12th December 2001, 17:33   #4 (permalink)
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          Very witty, Euro.

          Actually I myself am suddenly feeling great affection and gratitude towards Chris Bangle. If it hadn't been for his massacre of the new 7 series I would never have discovered the M5.

          After 7-8 years happily driving a 740IL, I am in total nirvana driving my new M5 after having cancelled my order for the 745i.

          Thank you, Chris, from the bottom of my heart.

          Now, please BMW, fire the arrogant SOB before he kills the new 5 series!

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          Old 12th December 2001, 18:17   #5 (permalink)
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          well said Paul, well said.
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          Old 12th December 2001, 18:57   #6 (permalink)
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          Of course I haven't met CB personally, but he was quoted as having said: "the role of a (design) leader is to take people where they don't want to go."

          I consider this to be:

          1) The height of arrogance.

          2) A potentially suicidal approach for BMW considering what I believe to be the profile of the average 7 series customer.

          Sales figures will prove all.

          I must say I had never in my life been on a message board until this mess happened. I was all psyched up to transition into the new model. Had the lease timed perfectly. Deposit placed.

          After begining to see the the photos and read the reviews, I felt like a man who comes home to find his wife suddenly gone after 20 years of marriage. I think I was searching for a support group! Women and cars. What a cross us men bear!

          Speaking of which, I was in Tokyo last week. Thought I might be able to actually see the 745i there since it has already been released in Hong Kong.

          Visited the BMW showroom in Ginza. Unburdened myself to the drop dead gorgeous Japanese young lady on duty.

          She said she had seen it/presented it at the Tokyo auto show. Confided that it didn't look any better 'in person' from her POV.

          (Her male colleague proffered that it 'grew on him' over the few days of the show. )
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          Old 30th December 2001, 05:27   #7 (permalink)
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          745i

          No a bad picture!

          http://www.ofoto.com/PhotoView.jsp?U...id=71560149203
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          Old 30th December 2001, 06:05   #8 (permalink)
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          Agree, very nive pic!
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          Old 30th December 2001, 14:16   #9 (permalink)
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          Agree that the E65 definitely looks better in darker colors...but if the badging were removed, would you really identify it as a BMW?
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          Old 30th December 2001, 14:37   #10 (permalink)
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          Yes, I would anyway.
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          Old 30th December 2001, 14:59   #11 (permalink)
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          Quote:
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          Agree that the E65 definitely looks better in darker colors...but if the badging were removed, would you really identify it as a BMW?
          My thoughts exactly!
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