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Rear Tyres for E36 - no longer in program of Michelin?

I know it was always difficult to get hold of the tyres for the E36 (B3/B6/B8) but I didn't realise that Michelin doesn't have the tyre in their program anymore - at least not as 265/35x17.

Is there an official statement from Alpina / Michelin which tyre to use now ?

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Re: Rear Tyres for E36 - no longer in program of Michelin?

i have got two more....

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Re: Rear Tyres for E36 - no longer in program of Michelin?

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i have got two more....
Hi Peter

... but what about in the long term? Will we have to hope for some tyre dealer to have some old tyres in stock?

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Re: Rear Tyres for E36 - no longer in program of Michelin?

Well-I think Michelin changed from The Michelin Sport to the Sport 2...thats the Problem. But every Alpina E 36 has had these tyres-and Michelin was the only manufacturer in this size.

Do you need the tyres right now?

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Re: Rear Tyres for E36 - no longer in program of Michelin?

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Well-I think Michelin changed from The Michelin Sport to the Sport 2...thats the Problem. But every Alpina E 36 has had these tyres-and Michelin was the only manufacturer in this size.

Do you need the tyres right now?
I'll have a look tomorrow to see how they are.

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Re: Rear Tyres for E36 - no longer in program of Michelin?

Just had a check on www.michelin.fr and the size is available ...
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Re: Rear Tyres for E36 - no longer in program of Michelin?

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Just had a check on www.michelin.fr and the size is available ...
Hi Tinker,

that's interesting. The German site (www.michelin.de) didn't have that size available anymore. Both sites also show the attached list of available dimensions for the Michelin Pilot Sport which is missing the relevant size for the rear axle.

I just received an answer from Alpina. They tell me I could also use the following dimensions :
Front: 225/45 ZR17
Rear: 245/40 ZR17

Does anyone run these dimensions on a B8? How will the car handle with these tyres? The rear tyres will have a circumference which is approx. 3 cm bigger than the original dimension. I've taken of 4% from the circumference since it seems to be common practise (see also www.m-forum.com) when calculating the speed.

265/35 - 18: 1.86 m
245/40 - 17: 1.89 m
255/35 - 18: 1.92 m
265/35 - 18: 1.94 m (not sure, if this would fit)

Mill, if I remember correctly, you run yours on 255/35 - 18. They are even bigger than the 245/40 but you also have the shorter rear-axle (2.93 vs. 2.79) which slightly over-compensates for the bigger tyres.

If my math isn't all wrong, this would be the speeds at 6000 RPM in sixth gear (the gear ratio is 1:0.828 I belief)

Tyres 2,79 2,93 3,15

265/35 - 17 290,1 276,3 257,0
245/40 - 17 295,1 281,0 261,3
255/35 - 18 298,8 284,5 264,6
265/35 - 18 302,1 287,6 267,5

Are most of you still running the stock size or have some of you switched to other dimensions ?

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Re: Rear Tyres for E36 - no longer in program of Michelin?

so we have to go to the TÜV....

The 245/40/17 will be much cheaper than the 265/35 an we will get much better tyres than the Michelins. Thats the positive effect. On the other hand the car will have a slightly longer "übersetzung"...the optic of the rear tires is higher and you need a set of new front tires as well.....

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Re: Rear Tyres for E36 - no longer in program of Michelin?

If I remember correctly the stock B8 rear wheel is 9" wide. Running a 245/40 17 on it will look VERY odd too say the least, just look at the rear wheel on an M-roadster/coupe to see what I mean.... As far as I know Michelin produces batches of obsolete tires to order, and I can't imagine Alpina giving the aforementioned tire-advice for the 9" wheel. Good luck, and if I stumble across any 265/35 I'll let you all know!!

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so we have to go to the TÜV....

The 245/40/17 will be much cheaper than the 265/35 an we will get much better tyres than the Michelins. Thats the positive effect. On the other hand the car will have a slightly longer "übersetzung"...the optic of the rear tires is higher and you need a set of new front tires as well.....

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Re: Rear Tyres for E36 - no longer in program of Michelin?

as i mentione. the optic is

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