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Old 22nd August 2003, 11:41   #1
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400 hp Alpina in E36

I previously made another thread about how I was receiving an Alpina engine. I talked to my German friend, and this was the explanation:

The engine block is an Alpina B7 Turbo engine (330 HP) with the 24 valve head from a B6 engine, so in essence, exactly what I said earlier: a 24-valve Alpina B7 Turbo engine.

This combination of parts was, in fact, assembled by Alpina to fill a custom order by the original owner of this vehicle. As I understand it, Alpina highly customizes cars just like BMW when they are purchased new, if one wishes to pay extra for such modifications. In this case, they fabricated a beautiful race engine for a car that was unfortunately rolled on the Autobahn... This engine has 10,000 km on it. This engine is about 400 horsepower, 400 lb/ft torque.

I plan to purchase this engine and install it in my E36.

As an alternative, I can purchase a euro-spec 93-94 M3 engine with very low kilometers on it -- Much simpler to install and much less to purchase. This engine would have 286 horses but only 240 lb-ft (much less than the 24V Alpina.)

Lastly, I will later provide authentic documents for the purchase and work order for modifications pertaining to this vehicle when it was bought new from Alpina.

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Old 22nd August 2003, 12:46   #2
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Alpina does not customizes their models, even if bought new, and even the customer is paying 1 Million $ .
However I heard many stories of Alpinas (turbos) modified in the aftermarket. I know of a blue BiTurbo in France which got +400 bhp. The guy kinked the line shaft...
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Re: 400 hp Alpina in E36

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I previously made another thread about how I was receiving an Alpina engine. I talked to my German friend, and this was the explanation:

The engine block is an Alpina B7 Turbo engine (330 HP) with the 24 valve head from a B6 engine, so in essence, exactly what I said earlier: a 24-valve Alpina B7 Turbo engine.

This combination of parts was, in fact, assembled by Alpina to fill a custom order by the original owner of this vehicle. As I understand it, Alpina highly customizes cars just like BMW when they are purchased new, if one wishes to pay extra for such modifications. In this case, they fabricated a beautiful race engine for a car that was unfortunately rolled on the Autobahn... This engine has 10,000 km on it. This engine is about 400 horsepower, 400 lb/ft torque.

I plan to purchase this engine and install it in my E36.

As an alternative, I can purchase a euro-spec 93-94 M3 engine with very low kilometers on it -- Much simpler to install and much less to purchase. This engine would have 286 horses but only 240 lb-ft (much less than the 24V Alpina.)

Lastly, I will later provide authentic documents for the purchase and work order for modifications pertaining to this vehicle when it was bought new from Alpina.

Thoughts? Flames?
Sorry Alpina does not work on motors outside of their guidline agreement with BMW.....that is why they always have an answer to the //M cars.......//M3 (ee30) B6s 3.5....//M5(e28) B7turbo..//M635 (e24)B7/B7s turbo....M5(e34) B10 Biturbo...

The only 24valve motors are the S38 and M88 and S14 motors that BMW produced.....

Lastley I don't think anyone here would stop you from buying anything....but would caution you as to the validity of the product...do you have photos of this motor? why not get photos
from the seller (that should be no issue) then take the block number and give it to me or someone else that has a "DIRECT" line into Alpina to verify the validity of the claims of the seller......
Tell the seller you need the motor number that Alpina has on any/every motor they work on

any motor that Alpina works on/produce they will have a record of it especially for customer support for service or parts.....I think that would be the easiest thing to do.....

I would love to see you get this beast and install it but make sure that it is genuine......no flames from me just a word of caution

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Hi

I have to agree with the previuos coments, just want to underline 1 thing.

The B6 label has been used on several engine types but has NEVER EVER been an 24 V engine.


The suggestion to get the engine number sounds like an good idea to try to find out what kind of engine you are getting.
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Isn't the B6 2.8 E36 a 24v engine ??
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Isn't the B6 2.8 E36 a 24v engine ??
even if that is/were the case that head would not fit the M30 block anyway......

The only head that could work with that block would be the M88/S38 twin cam head......
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Isn't the B6 2.8 E36 a 24v engine ??


I actually forgott that one............. no exuse
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Isn't the B6 2.8 E36 a 24v engine ??


I actually forgott that one............. no exuse
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even if that is/were the case that head would not fit the M30 block anyway......

The only head that could work with that block would be the M88/S38 twin cam head......
Yep, there is no way as you say...
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