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Old 14th September 2009, 01:05   #1
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Information on B8 Cabrio N°13 for sale ?

For just 23k€ and 105000kms. Anynone having information about this B8 cabrio N°13 for sale in Estonia ?

According to Kees on Alpina Archive, the car has been imprted from Japan to Estonia in 2008...

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Old 14th September 2009, 07:39   #2
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Hay,

a member from the German Alpina forum has to himself that strives itself made and some bargains to clear

to show sometimes a few things for the general public...... this I have also explained in some telephone calls:
the company which has advertised the vehicle is after our legal understanding not the owner
an exportation of the vehicle should occur for safety reasons for the buyer only with Estonian exportation numbers. only with it the buyer has the guarantee which is free the carriage also really of right third and is to be registered later easily in Germany (Cost approx. 200 euros)
to bring the assent effected by the supplier the car for 400 euros to D. is absolutely realistic
the vehicle was not finished with a German high-class understanding, the buyer can assume own construction solutions, missing parts, the use of used parts etc.
for finishing the vehicle to used 3 workshops, electrical system / electronics, gen. technology and car body construction enjoy a good call what, however, their respective order was is an another story
a really informative examination of the vehicle on site is feasible - thus the supplier joins in
At a price I would like to say nothing, with 23 made cars the Preisfindung is "interesting" from my perception.

Who can liked to look the car live with my support count. Flights with AirBaltic or Estonian air, Riga / Tallinn or Tartu would be the airports of destination. Indeed, I am not in 18. on business abkömmlich and from 21. for 10 days in Germany.

It is the had an accident carriage from Japan!!!!!!


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Old 14th September 2009, 09:20   #3
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Emmanuel,

As Thomas mentioned and as the pictures show, the car was involved in a pretty serious accident. It seems like the insurance company didn't think it was worth repairing to BMW specifications, which is why it ended up where it is.

From the outside it looks good, but that only reflects the paint and is no guarantee of a good repair job. Keep in mind that you will probably need to spend a few thousand more to bring it up to cosmetic and safety standards, so the car will cost you more than the €23k the seller is asking.

The B8 Cabrio is a very rare Alpina that rarely comes up for sale. But it so happens that there are 3 publicly on the market (and maybe one more through a private sale) at this time. So you have a choice of cars, albeit the others are more expensive. But the others are European registered cars that have to meet minimum safety requirements, so you have some comfort that they are road legal. The Estonian/Japanese car may turn out to be a different story...

Caveat emptor!

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Old 14th September 2009, 09:47   #4
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Hay Imad,

and two convertibles are damaged. The No. 17 has a rear damage, because the boot lid closes not cleanly and both rear lights not shortly conclude.

Also new cross beams have been obstructed for the rear axis, why?

The topical No. 13 was assembled the cheapest kind, was probably introduced as a scrap metal from Japan.
In the engine space two different brilliant tones of the colour are recognizable and and and............



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Old 14th September 2009, 09:55   #5
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Thanks both to you schlumpf-nu and IAS.

When it's too good to be true, .... it is often not good or not true or a bit of both like in our case.
When I first looked at the pictures, it was too shiny for an original paint ... of a 13 years old car and 105000kms ...

However, even if the accident may not be as serious as it looks like and if the repairs are done by good proferssionals, the value of the car does not worth much as every possible serious buyer would know that it has been accidented, therefore impossible to sell. And when you read the comments of the seller what can you really believe and trust ???
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It seems that the prospect of getting a good cabrio is getting slimmer.

So of the 21 made do we know how many are left, and indeed how many of those are accident free?

Emmanuel, have you thought about a tourer - much more practical

Actually, it will help in my advertising my car if I knew how many tourers are left too - anyone any insight??

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Old 14th September 2009, 12:06   #7
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Actually, it will help in my advertising my car if I knew how many tourers are left too - anyone any insight??
Most if not all of the Tourings are left in same shape or another as they are too rare to break and too easy to repair cheaply with used BMW parts.
They were often treated quite harshly as daily drivers, young drivers (for some strange reason I know of several Tourings with <25 year-old original owners). I'd say 25-30% of them have had serious accident damage and/or non-original engines.

The selling points for your car would be:
- original with full (BMW?) service history
- solid, easy to verify 2-owner history
- good color combination

There's not many B8 Tourings left with such a no-story history.
It would be the kind of car many potential B8 owners are looking for.
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Kees,

That is interesting to hear. I am surprised at how 20-25 yearolds can insure the things - although this may only be an issue here in the UK.

My car has a full history but not BMW. I would not trust the local BMW garage to do the work that has been done over the years I have owned the car.

I have taken some pictures at the weekend and will try to put some for sale details up later, but have had laptop problems at the weekend.

Regards

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Ohh I suspect I know the answer to this already, but did Alpina make a rhd D10 tourings?
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Old 14th September 2009, 13:35   #9
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Most if not all of the Tourings are left in same shape or another as they are too rare to break and too easy to repair cheaply with used BMW parts.
They were often treated quite harshly as daily drivers, young drivers (for some strange reason I know of several Tourings with <25 year-old original owners). I'd say 25-30% of them have had serious accident damage and/or non-original engines.

The selling points for your car would be:
- original with full (BMW?) service history
- solid, easy to verify 2-owner history
- good color combination

There's not many B8 Tourings left with such a no-story history.
It would be the kind of car many potential B8 owners are looking for.

Thx Kees , that's interesting to know too , even if I'm not in the market to sell mine .
It hopefully means that the Tourings (at least ones like mine (and Frosty's and Bernie's) with 100% history) should increase
in value over the next years .

I'm with Frosty , how on earth do under 25 year olds get insurance on these . I'm paying Eur 2500 fully casco and I
have a complete no-claim discount from my insurer .
And also 'proper' running costs , making sure everything is done properly isn't cheap either . Assuming a 'youngster'
would do it properly in the first place .

Paul , I look forward to seeing your fotos , I've only seen the 2 on the Register's site .
Good luck finding a 'nice' buyer .

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Frosty , If you move to Sweden, become a member of Alpina Club Schweden then you can have a B8 fully insured for aprox 190 Eur/year
BUT you are only allowed to drive 5000km /year , have the car in a private garage and not use it as a "everydaycar".

So if you have your Alpina as a true enthusiast car then there is a chanse to get this very special insurance

This kind of insurances makes it possible for Swedeish car enthusiasts to put their money on the car instead of "giving" them to the insurancecompany and therefore we have a very good standard of our enthusiastcars
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