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chrislux · 23rd August 2009, 02:09

Yes Kees , that's the car I'm referring to .....

Danish · 23rd August 2009, 04:13

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Originally Posted by kees

Sytner built 5 E31 conversions using Alpina parts.
As typical for that era, some were 'full-blown' B12 5.0 conversions and at least one was badged B5.0 denoting that it was interior/exterior conversion only.

Here's one of them...I also have the chassisnumbers, colors and options of the other 4.

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Well in that case, I take my words back

Did Sytner actually take the V12 engine apart and fitted the proper pistons, vales and cams or did they take a shortcut?

shde09 · 23rd August 2009, 09:10

But this car is LHD. Aren't all the Sytners RHD ?

kees · 23rd August 2009, 09:16

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Originally Posted by Danish

Did Sytner actually take the V12 engine apart and fitted the proper pistons, vales and cams or did they take a shortcut?

Sytner ordered complete components (engines, suspension, bodywork) from Alpina for installation.
But as mentioned the shortcut that Sytner started taking was selling 'incomplete conversions' (e.g. bodywork/suspension modifications only) and naming them B2.5, B2.8, B3.5, B5.0, etc.

kees · 23rd August 2009, 09:19

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Originally Posted by shde09

But this car is LHD. Aren't all the Sytners RHD ?

We're now discussing this car:

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Originally Posted by kees

I take it you were referring to this car (picture from Gaydon 2009)?
It's one of the Sytner conversions I believe.

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alpinadvl · 24th August 2009, 19:22

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Originally Posted by Danish

Well in that case, I take my words back

+1

Chas C · 25th August 2009, 22:54

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Originally Posted by kees

Sytner built 5 E31 conversions using Alpina parts. As typical for that era, some were 'full-blown' B12 5.0 conversions and at least one was badged B5.0 denoting that it was interior/exterior conversion only.

I have pictures of a couple I have looked at in the past. One is particularly interesting...

The other two are not.

Notice the interior and the bonnet in that first picture, and then the position of the steering wheel. Where is this car now?? (and why isn't it in my garage!!)

I understand that Sytner did the same work on their full conversions that Alpina did - they took the engines apart and fitted Mhale pistons etc.

Danish · 26th August 2009, 01:54

Chas,

I think the 5.7 in your pic was one of the two ex-sultan of Brunei cars that Sytner had. It was for sale by Maxted Page AFAIK for a long time. Don't know where the car is now. I don't think Sytner did any 5.7 conversions?